D.J. Demers

He wears hearing aids, but it's totally not a big deal.

D.J. Demers is a stand-up comedian. 

Episode 23 - Ryan Bondy

Ryan Bondy is the star of the Book of Mormon and also one of my lifelong best friends. We spoke over the phone from Burbank, California to Melbourne, Australia. Modern technology is a beautiful thing.

Follow Ryan Bondy on Instagram @bondy34


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Transcript

[intro] 

D.J. Demers: What’s up y’all? Welcome to “Definitely D.J.”. I'm saying y’all now, I've been in Houston for a couple of days, I say y’all now. I love y’all, because Canada we say you guys, oh hey how you guys doing? Not correct, it's not just guys, is guys, girls, everything in between, y’all just covers the whole gamut, how y’all doing? Just flows off the tongue. 

Anyway, how y’all doing? I'm recording this at 2:40 a.m. on a Saturday night or Sunday morning rather, here in Houston- had four shows at the joke joint, two shows Friday, two shows Saturday, it’s too late but I got to record this because I'm already a couple of days behind schedule and you know what, I think at 2:40 in the morning, that's when I'm really going to shine, I think you're going to hear a lot of real emotion here, not probably not, this is when I get the most guarded actually, we shouldn't be talking right now, I got to go, well that was weird. 

I went up to Houston Astros today, I'm a big baseball fan, they got a great team and you know when you're a comedian on the road it’s easy to just not do stuff when you're in the cities, I got a nice hotel room, I got to worked out, hang out to the shows but I was like no, go. The game was at noon, I got up at 11, it was a late night last night, not anything crazy but by the time you get home from the shows it's like 2 a.m. and I'm not even- no party or anything, so I woke up, 11 a.m. the game was at noon and I said “you're going to the game” and I'm glad I did, what a great game, what a great team. And the club has been great too, the joke joint here in Houston, I'm just a dude from Canada you know, so everywhere I travel in America, there's so many different cultures throughout the different states in America and Texas has its own you know, crazy kind of separate thing and I've been to Austin but that's not really the same and I performed at a college in Lubbock as well but that was pretty- uh, you know isolated, I was just in Lubbock, did this one show and I was out the next day, so doing four shows for Houston club audiences I was wondering what it was going to be like and uh- it was really fun. I had to acclimate, you have to kind of figure out what makes people laugh, what jokes they like, what jokes they don't, what kind of vibe they like and that's one of my favorite part to performing on the road is figuring that out in every new city. 

So you know, obviously they were just really affected by hurricane Harvey, so I'm like “that something that's on people's minds” and a couple of my friends are like “so you have jokes about the hurricane?” I’m like “no, I don't have jokes about the hurricane, you sick son of a bitch”, not something to be joked about. So that's 

basically what I said on stage actually and then I started kind of making jokes about it, basically I was talking about how are like my hearing aids in a hurricane. 

I just be so worried about them the entire time like, I'm very vulnerable- those things go out, I mean the Apocalypse will not be kind to me. Actually that's not even really true cause once my hearing aids don't work, I go into what my friends sometimes referred to as “full deaf mode”, sometimes I have kind of hyper focus in those situations but while I have hyper focus I also have way less hearing, so I don't know if that's a equal trade off. 

I guess these are some 2:40 a.m. thoughts coming at ya. You know what my favorite part about being on the road is when you do clubs? Meeting other comedians in different cities, seeing what the scenes are like, I hung out with my feature this weekend and my host Doug and Trey. They were both so fun, we went out for meals and just hanging out with comedians is, nothing like it, man. You meet these different comedians on the road, you all have kind of kindred spirits, you know, common interests and comedian sensibility - super fun. 

So Houston's been great, uh- back to L.A. in the morning. 10:50 am. Flying in the Burbank, not L.A.X. Oh my God! L.A.X takes years off of your life - Burbank, I can walk from the airport. What a dream. 

OK, I'm going to get into it soon but before we do - big tour coming up, I can't believe how soon it's coming up. Beginning of October I started thirty-day, twenty college tour across a the United States of America and it's going to be great. Big, old bus with my face plastered all over it, you're going to want to check out - "heretoheartour.com" or go to my website and I have a link to it as well, "djdemers.com" but that's "A Here To Hear Tour" and it's going to be incredible. It's sponsored by Phonak - that is the name of the hearing aids that I wear, they have been nothing short of amazing. They sent me Snapchat spectacles - if you don't know what those are, they are glasses you put on, you press a little button on the top and you just record what you're seeing and you can upload it to Snapchat, it is insane. I was playing around with them, just walking around, you know, they don't look like completely normal sunglasses but they're not far off. You hit that button, you're recording- the world sees what you're seeing. It's crazy, the future is scary. And fun. And scary. 

So I'm going to have those on the tour, we just announced we're going to Gallaudet, which is the all-deaf school, I mean there's more than one deaf school but Gallaudet is iconic, you know. It's in Washington, been around- very storied history 

and it's been around since the mid eighteen hundreds I want to say, uh- maybe I should look that up. It's been around since, for more than 150 years, so yeah, that will be what? 1850 yeah, so that's going to be on the tour and that's very interesting because they have a lot of "capital D" deaf students there and I am obviously not "capital D" deaf, I'm hard-of-hearing and there has been some friction, I want to say between those two communities. I was never really exposed to it but I've learned a lot more about it as I performed, you know, for various crowds that are hard-of-hearing and kind of learned about the communities and the way they interact with each other, so going to Gallaudet might be an opportunity for me to extend another branch of sorts, I'm going to try to learn the ASL, it's bad that I don't know ASL but I'll try to learn enough that, you know, at least I'm showing that I've made an effort because that would be cool. Raising awareness for hard-of-hearing issues is one thing but if I could make some sort of connection with the deaf community as well, you know, that's pretty powerful army to get all of them together, not saying we're planning something violent, maybe army wasn't the right choice of words but- community, community is much more friendly and innocuous than army. 

Tour is going to be insane and it's sponsored by Phonak and Hearing Like Me- speaking of Hearing Like Me, they are also the sponsors of the captioning that you can find on every single episode, so if you're having a hard time hearing anything in the episode, we have captions, so you can read my words and the words of my guest, you can read along with the podcast. It's on my website - "djdemers.com" and just go to the podcast page and every podcast episode has the caption script right below it, that is sponsored by Hearing Like Me. They are an amazing website devoted to hearing loss issues, there's articles, there's videos you know, heartfelt, funny, educational and they also have some very cute pictures of kids with hearing aids and I'm a sucker for that. I don't know about you but I see a cute kid with hearing aids, maybe it's because I just see a little bit of me but I don't know, I think it's universal thing. Oh man, or those videos where baby hears for the first time? Get out of there! Those are -my God, guaranteed wetworks if I'm watching one of those. 

OK, I don't know if wetworks is a word. Waterworks? I'm going to get into the episode, I'm really glad I recorded this right now because- I feel like I did as much as I joked about my guard being up, I feel like I let my guard down really just kind of -uh, what's the word I'm looking for? Rambled, that’s right. Rambled. 

Let's get into the episode, this episode is with a great friend of mine, uh - Ryan Bondy. He's like one of my best friend, we go way back, I love the guy and he's in Australia right now. I do a whole preamble at the beginning of the episode so you're 

about to hear just how good of a friend he is. Thank you very much for listening and we'll see you next week on "Definitely D.J.". Oh Calgary, I'm going to be in your city next weekend at the joke joint, not at the joke joint, that's were I'm in Houston this weekend- at the Laugh Shop from Thursday the 28th to Saturday the 30th of September, so any Calgary listeners come on out to that show. Thanks for listening as always and we catch you on the flipside. 

D.J. Demers: Alright, I think I'm settling into a groove. I am here with my good pal, Ryan Bondy. Good pal would be under selling it by a bunch. Dare I say, what's the word I’m looking for? Bromantic life partner. He is killing it on the Book of Mormon right now. He opened the Book of Mormon show in Melbourne, Australia and he is the lead. He plays Elder Price. He’s played it on Broadway, he’s played it on the American Tour and he is quite a talent but he is also one of my very best friends and he’s in Melbourne, Australia right now. 

So this is a "Definitely D.J." first, where I am not live in person with my guest. We are on opposite sides of the world. I am here in Burbank, well I don’t know if it exactly opposite, I am not a Geography major, but we are very far from each other. I am currently in Burbank, California. Mr Bondy, Bondo, the Bondonater, nobody has ever called him that, I don’t think but Ryan Bondy, he’s all the way in Melbourne, Australia as the local Aussies would say, Melboune, it's not Melbourne. I feel like that was a very like talk-show style introduction but you know what? It felt right, it felt good. 

Ryan, how are you? 

Ryan Bondy: I would have never expected anything less from you, man. I wanted that talk-show introduction with the conversation with you. 

D.J. Demers: If anybody can get their flow like a talk-show host, game-show style voice on, it’s you. You get into that character real easy. Can you try to sell me something right now? I am going to give you something you’re passionate about. Sell me a Louisville baseball bat. 

Ryan Bondy: A Louisville baseball bat, alright. 

D.J. Demers: Why would I want to buy a Louisville baseball bat? 

Ryan Bondy: Have you ever wanted to hit a ball so far you can’t see it anymore? Well, I’ve got the bat for you. The Louisville Slugger, made of sweet time, sweet cut down ash from the southern forest of Australia, this wood would ship straight to 

your doorway. We are gonna shape it up, we are gonna pound it out and you are gonna hit that ball farther than you ever had. Louisville, a slugger for you. 

D.J. Demers: [laughing] Wow! You wanna talk about rising to the occasion. My goodness. 

Ryan Bondy: That’s 9:30 in the morning for me. 9:40 right now. 

D.J. Demers: You just woke up a half an hour ago. That’s a man who has a talent and he is not about to run away from it any time soon. 

Ryan Bondy: [laughing] Run away from it. 

D.J. Demers: Oh my God. Okay Ryan, let’s introduce the listeners of this podcast, "Definitely D.J". The DJrino. The army of DJnites, I call them. Don’t call them any of that. I’m very bad- don’t you think it’s weird when people give like their fans, I’m uncomfortable even with that word, but don’t you think when some sort of artist or celebrity says "my fan base is called this". What do you think? You’re okay with that? Like "Team Bondy", would you be okay with the "Team Bondy"? 

Ryan Bondy: No, "The Bondination" was a thing that was started. 

D.J. Demers: Oh my God, "Bondination" was a thing! 

Ryan Bondy: Yeah, I don’t know if it still is. I think they all were 16 and now are 

twenty and decided to stop. [laughing] 

D.J. Demers: But you didn’t start that though, right? I remember when you were first on with the book of Mormon and you were developing a following all across the US, right? 

Ryan Bondy: Right, so I think with the fan naming thing, I think that they crown themselves. I don’t think Justin Bieber, the- what were his things again? 

D.J. Demers: The Beliebers. 

Ryan Bondy: The Beliebers. Yeah, I don’t think Justin Bieber was like "You know what, I want to start this hashtag and make sure it catches on". 

D.J. Demers: I don’t think you are right. He was so huge but you do see some people make an attempt at creating their own. That just comes off a little weird to me. 

Ryan Bondy: If you have a T-Shirt before all your fans do, then there’s an issue. [laughing] 

D.J. Demers: I know my fellow DJrino would agree with you on that one, Mr. Bondy. 

Ryan Bondy: That’s right. Is my T-Shirt in the mail, by the way? [laughing] 

D.J. Demers: [laughing] Okay, so before we get into your amazing journey that you have been on with the Book of Mormon, let’s tell people about the amazing journey that is our friendship. We’ve known each other since we were- how old were we when we met? 

Ryan Bondy: I think we knew of each other when we were about nine, I think. Nine years old, we were playing baseball and catching and turning. I remember so distinctly cause it was the first year that I went up to Triple A, and for those of you who don’t know what Triple A is, it’s like the elite level of baseball. When it comes to being a kid, like there was a Peewee Triple A, Bantam Triple A and then there’s obviously like Double A and Single A that kind of follow behind after the- 

D.J. Demers: If you are playing Triple A, you are playing for keeps. 

Ryan Bondy: You are playing for keeps, you know. You’ve got tournaments all the time you got to go to practice and stuff, but I remember it was the first year I was getting into Triple A and there was a little bit of controversy on the field during one of the try outs. I remember, your dad and you- this is like nine year old D.J. Your dad and you on the side of the fence and I guessed you missed a try out or something for Triple A. You missed it for hockey, right? 

D.J. Demers: Yeah, I was still in the middle of my hockey season and I played that competitively too and I had played Triple A baseball for a couple of years. So my dad went to the try outs- 

Ryan Bondy: Just a regular Bo Jackson over here. 

D.J. Demers: [laughing] Actually the correct analogy, there would be Tom Glavine I believe or is it Greg Maddux? 

Ryan Bondy: Tom Glavine played hockey? 

D.J. Demers: It was either Glavine or Maddux, one of the great pitchers from the nineties. One of them got drafted in both the NHL and MLB. 

Ryan Bondy: Oh, it was definitely Otis Nixon. [laughing] 

D.J. Demers: Otis Nixon could have done whatever he put his mind to. But yes, so my dad come to the try out, there’s a new coach that year, Jack, great guy too. So my dad kind of takes me after I missed a couple try outs. He’s like "hey, he's been at hockey, it's playoffs right now, it’s the end of the season but he can come today" and Jack was like, "Well no, he missed the first couple try outs" and my dad was like, “yeah but he played last year” and Jack didn’t really think that excuse flied- or flew? 

Ryan Bondy: I think it's flew but it’s your podcast, you can do whatever you want. 

D.J. Demers: Language is fluid. I think you saw, if I may give the story back to you. You saw my dad and Jack kind of getting into it when they had a difference of opinion on the matter. 

Ryan Bondy: Yes, when you are a kid and you see like, I think I was just like warming up in the outfield, playing catch- and you see two adults, clearly not in a pleasant conversation and it’s kind of shocking as a kid. And I knew Jack for, I think a year at that point. And he is a super nice guy, got a moustache, kind of a little bit of belly on him. And then two men, separated by a chain link fence with this like white plastic coating that you think helped somebody just survive if they decided to try to catch a foul ball over the fence- it still hurts so much. It just basically stopped penetration of steel into your child’s ribs. But you are looking in the distance and you see -and your dad is such a character. I don’t know if you’ve, you know, uh- told your listeners about your dad. But I love your dad. You can’t write your dad in a show. 

D.J. Demers: [laughing] Yeah. 

Ryan Bondy: I don’t think you can. You can’t write a character. But these two guys are just like clearly not happy with each other and then there is little D.J., like sitting ready to go for practice. Like ready to go, to like just literally run onto the field, just sitting on a bench behind his dad. 

D.J. Demers: All I really wanted to do is play baseball. 

Ryan Bondy: I was like "Why isn’t that kid warming up right now? What’s going on?" And it was at Breithaupt Park. You remember, he was at that top diamond in Breithaupt. 

D.J. Demers: So I didn’t end up playing for Kitchener that year cause- [laughing] 

Ryan Bondy: Yeah, all of a sudden during the season, we hear rumor that D.J. Demers went to Cambridge. I was like, "what, DJ’s at Cambridge?" And then playing you guys for the first time, and then we played against each other for what, the next five years? 

D.J. Demers: Yeah, maybe. 

Ryan Bondy: Almost Six. 

D.J. Demers: Maybe three or four. Was it that? 

Ryan Bondy: I think it was a while, man. I look back like I was three years but then I look at photos and we were playing Triple A. 

D.J. Demers: Yea, we started getting moustaches and shit. You know those 15 year old wispy moustaches when you are like "I don’t care, this is a moustache". 

Ryan Bondy: See, mine kind of got dark cause I was a catcher, so mine kind of got a little darker because of the mask, it puts dirt in it. When I took my mask off, the appearance of like five o’clock shadow was there but it was just really dirt. 

D.J. Demers: That’s a good look. So that’s when we first meet and then long story short, we compete against each other in baseball for a few years and then we also made like this other kind of- this just sounds like bragging but we played a lot of competitive baseball against each other and with each other. And then I kind of stopped playing baseball when I was like fifteen. 

Ryan Bondy: Can I pause you for a second, D.J.? 

D.J. Demers: You can do whatever you like. 

Ryan Bondy: There is a significant story in our friendship that I tell everybody. I don’t know if- and now I have a chance to tell even more people. How many listeners you said you had? Four? This is awesome. 

D.J. Demers: Millions, yeah. 

Ryan Bondy: Four million. Okay. 

D.J. Demers: I am like Netflix. I don’t like to disclose my numbers. 

Ryan Bondy: [laughing] Get that residual penny check and mail ever so often. 

D.J. Demers: You know the shareholders, as long as they are getting paid, they don’t need that much revenue and listener information. That’s what I’d like to say. IPO next week, though. 

Ryan Bondy: Oh, amazing. 

D.J. Demers: Keep going. [laughing] 

Ryan Bondy: [laughing] So we are sitting on this bus; we are playing for this basically elite team for the Ontario Summer Games and they’ve kind of plucked all the different good guys from each team and D.J. and I are now on the same team. And so they put us on this bus and we end up sitting beside each other. Cause we knew, you always know a nice guy when you are a little kid. I was like, "I like that kid and I wanna hang out with him. I would let him play with my Lego". D.J. was that guy. So I’m sitting beside you on the bench and I remember like we just laughed, like that first time you laugh when you can’t control. You laugh as a kid to try to fit in sometimes. Like, "oh, that was funny, I will look that up later" but you try to fit in, but you and I, to that day I never laughed harder till like when your sides hurt. I don’t remember necessarily what we were really talking about for about a good hour. We were just in- our own little world in this bus, just laughing. 

D.J. Demers: Oh yeah, when you are that age and somebody you find you're just on the same wave length and you are laughing that hard, there is no stopping forever. You are just like, you can’t even breathe. I remember that. I remember being on like baseball road trips, being on the bus, just dying laughing. 

Ryan Bondy: Oh yeah. It was so great and then I remember D.J. saying, you saying- 

D.J. Demers: [laughing] D.J. saying. 

Ryan Bondy: I am explaining to your listeners. 

D.J. Demers: Don’t even worry about the listeners, alright. The kind of show I run around here is, I show no respect for them and that keeps them coming back. I don’t care if you listen or not. He’s totally joking. Please keep listening. 

Ryan Bondy: [laughing] So he goes, so you go, I’m not gonna get used to this. "I’m gonna be a comedian when I grow up". And we were about 11. I was like, "Oh you absolutely should be" as I look back at you with like tears streaming from my 

eyes from laughing so hard. [laughing] And then you go, "but I’m not gonna be one of those comedians that, you know, you’re just swearing to like enhance or sell out a joke". And I was like, "What?". For an 11 year old I’m like "oh, yeah?", he’s like "yeah, you know how some jokes are really bad" and this is exactly what you said cause I never forgot it. You were like "I don’t want to have a joke that’s like "hey", you know you can make something funny but exciting by swearing with it, if someone was like, "hey, look, I found a carrot, it look like a peanut", and it just wasn’t funny, but then like it would be funny if someone went, "hey I found a carrot, it look like a fucking peanut". I’m like, "I’m not going to sell out, you know, I am gonna make sure that those jokes- I'm not gonna color not-funny jokes with swearing just to make it funny" and for an 11- year old, I mean now look at you. But for an 11-year old to have that kind of insight on the comedy, it was just, that's just crazy. 

D.J. Demers: Now I feel embarrassed to tell you about this new fucking peanut joke I’ve been working on. [laughing] 

Ryan Bondy: [laughing] 

D.J. Demers: You know what, you remember our childhood much better than I do because I also remember that, but I know it’s because we’ve talked about it so I’m like "how much of this am I recreating in my brain and how much do I actually remember?" But that’s pretty much I wonder with that about every single memory I’ve ever had. Oh, the brain is a fragile thing. So we are friends, by the way that is very- I tell people that story a lot too, because that is pretty cool. I love being a stand-up comedian and it's cool that I already had that idea from that young of an age. I relish that memory. So thank you for being a part of one of my favorite memories of my life, my childhood and my life. 

Ryan Bondy: You are welcome. It’s a great memory of mine as well. 

D.J. Demers: Can you sing the "You’re Welcome" song from "Moana"? 

Ryan Bondy: Can I what? 

D.J. Demers: Sing the "You’re Welcome" song from Moana. I just watched it. Have you seen it? 

Ryan Bondy: No. 

D.J. Demers: The Rock sings this song called "You’re Welcome" so I was just thinking with your voice, if you’ve seen that and could sing that, that would have a huge coop for the podcast. 

Ryan Bondy: Oh well, you didn’t really prep me an it's 9:30 in the morning and I’m just finishing my coffee. 

D.J. Demers: I watched Moana. It’s like I already get emotional watching those Disney movies and I don’t have kids. I’ve got four nieces and a nephew and I love the hell out of them. But imagine when I have kids what those movies are going to do to me? Dear Lord, "Inside Out". Have you seen "Inside Out"? 

Ryan Bondy: Oh man, "Inside Out" is just a ballfest. I’m just like crying. There is "Inside Out" which like builds you up to the cry. But then there is movies like "Up", that you sit down in the theater and are already crying within like literally two minutes. 

D.J. Demers: The opening montage. 

Ryan Bondy: Oh, that first opening montage - you’re done. 

D.J. Demers: That’s almost like a problem though, "Inside Out", don’t get me wrong, I love that montage and I love the whole movie of "Up" but "Inside Out" builds you up for the cry at the end. It’s almost like the same problem I have with the movie "Flight", starring Denzel Washington. That plane crash at the beginning where he lands the plane is so incredible but kind of like they blew their load at the beginning of the movie. 

Ryan Bondy: Yeah, I mean, but people kind of, I think with "Flight" it’s like "Okay, when are we gonna get to the plane crash?" I mean, I think you know from the previews and the title of the movie, I don’t think this thing is going to stay. 

D.J. Demers: But it doesn’t matter, you’d still be on board with that normal story structure, that’s how our brain works. Like "Sully" did that. "Sully" enters first throughout the movie and it was incredible. 

Ryan Bondy: I haven’t seen "Flight" but I just saw "Sully" the other day actually for the first time and that was great. Is there, and this is a question for everybody, is there a bad Tom Hanks movie? 

D.J. Demers: Oh my God, no. I was thinking that the other day too. Honestly, I was thinking of my favorite actors cause a couple podcasts ago I was talking about how I’ve watched a few great movies lately and I was gonna do like a top five list of 

my favorite actors and it got me thinking about Tom Hanks and I was like, I don’t know a bad Tom Hanks movie. 

Ryan Bondy: I mean Cloud Atlas. 

D.J. Demers: I didn’t see it. I also haven’t seen all of them. Is it not great? 

Ryan Bondy: Well, I haven’t seen it either but I think I am just refusing to cause I heard that it was bad and I don’t want to see a bad Tom Hanks. I’m sure he’s great in it but I just don’t want to see a bad Tom Hanks movie. 

D.J. Demers: Oh my God, that’s amazing. Protecting yourself from having to change your worldview on Tom Hanks. 

Ryan Bondy: It’s like any good relationship, you ignore some of the bad things just so you can sustain the good. You can't- I mean I’m sure he’s great in it but I heard like, just a horrible thing about it or horrible things. I mean like Halle Berry is in it, I don’t know who else is in that movie but- no bad Tom Hanks movie in my life. 

D.J. Demers: Same with Brad Pitt. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say I don’t know a bad Brad Pitt movie. 

Ryan Bondy: Okay, I think this is up for more of a discussion than the Tom Hanks no bad movie. You are talking Brad Pitt. 

D.J. Demers: I am open to the discussion right now. 

Ryan Bondy: We are having it. We might as well, okay. So Brad Pitt, I started obviously this stoppage in conversation to maybe counterpoint this, now I’m really just trying to flip through the old Rolodex in my brain off Brad Pitt movies. 

D.J. Demers: Listen to this, okay? Listen to this. "Snatch", "Fight Club", "Seven", "Ocean’s Eleven". I’m talking, oh my God, what else? 

Ryan Bondy: How was "World War Z"? 

D.J. Demers: "World War Z" is amazing. I love that movie. 

Ryan Bondy: In "Inglorious Bastards" he is amazing. 

D.J. Demers: What is he amazing? 

Ryan Bondy: "Inglorious Bastards". 

D.J. Demers: Oh my God, yeah. I even loved "Killing Him Softly". You go back in the day, I haven’t seen him in a long time but- 

Ryan Bondy: Oh my Gosh, that scene where Ray Liotta gets beat up. Oh. 

D.J. Demers: Oh man, yeah. So I’m just saying Brad Pitt doesn’t get enough shine. Because he’s good-looking. 

Ryan Bondy: He’s great looking. He’s gotten better with age. 

D.J. Demers: My goodness, can you imagine how crazy he must have went when him and Angelina broke up? Can you imagine the depravity? 

Ryan Bondy: I think he went crazy. 

D.J. Demers: Dude, the depravity of a 50-year old unchained Brad Pitt, I can imagine. 

Ryan Bondy: Do you realize there are long lines for people waiting for things but let’s just say, like Brad Pitt for almost his entire career has been taken. Like there was Jennifer Aniston, when he was kind of coming up- and then Angelina. 

D.J. Demers: We also don’t know what kind of a set up he had with them. I wonder with these Hollywood stars. 

Ryan Bondy: You think any of it is kind of like "Okay, our relationship has been shit for like three years, we are already seeing other people but we like the media attention"? 

D.J. Demers: I don’t think in every situation that’s true but I do believe that happens and it doesn’t have to be set up that cynically. It may just be like "listen, this will be a healthier relationship if we keep it open, because I’m Brad Pitt and you are Jennifer Aniston". 

Rural Ryan Bondy: It’s good that we are talking about this right now though because after the T-shirts come out, it’s gonna get to that point where we are going to have somebody with the camera kind of following us around and you really got to try to find a way to manage the paparazzi in your life. So it’s good that we’re kind of talking about this cause I don’t want our relationship to become that, you know. 

D.J. Demers: Just trying to schedule. I really don’t think I would ever be followed by the paparazzi. How noble of me to say, but I just don’t think I would do anything that would be of interest to them. You know what I mean? Like the types of people they sell magazines to wouldn’t really have an interest in the kind of life I’m living. 

Ryan Bondy: I mean, you are selling yourself short man. I’m expecting to see on the cover of -is "People Magazine" still considered a legit magazine or is it become that kind of tabloid thing too? "People magazine", they still make them? 

D.J. Demers: I think we might be overestimating what "People Magazine" ever meant. Like I think it’s always been kind of a record of the times but maybe I’m wrong. I don’t think it’s considered that prestigious now. But that being said, if you are on the cover of it, you’re definitely a huge somebody. Whatever that meant. But I’d love to be on the cover of "Neuroscience Weekly". 

Ryan Bondy: "Neuroscience Weekly"? Does that exist? 

D.J. Demers: I am guessing some sort- 

Ryan Bondy: I have to Google this. I have to Google this right now. 

D.J. Demers: Cause that would mean that I’d probably done something pretty damn cool to help civilization. I’m on the cover of "People" would probably mean that I got a movie to sell which is cool but I mean- 

Ryan Bondy: Don’t you see that happening at some point in your life? 

D.J. Demers: I’m talking like this, I’ve watched too many Jim Carrey interviews. [laughing] 

Ryan Bondy: Oh my God. 

D.J. Demers: Oh my God. If any of you haven’t heard like Jim Carrey "Entertainment Tonight", the "Entertainment Weekly" interview that he did and just a couple other ones he’s done recently like- you want to talk about a guy who’s always been a pretty deep thinker, but reaching this new level of whatever you want to call it - enlightenment or disenchantment with the current state of the planet or all of the 

above but he seemed kind of unhinged but kind of incredible in these recent interviews. What do you think? 

Ryan Bondy: For those of you who don’t know, Jim Carrey’s been like a huge influence in my life. I was doing impressions of him ever since I was in the eighth grade, so I followed him pretty religiously for a very long time and even to now and watching that interview, the only thing that was different from him, cause he’s had obscure and crazy interviews before, were his eyes. His eyes looked different. 

D.J. Demers: There was no light in them. 

Ryan Bondy: Sorry, go ahead. What? 

D.J. Demers: There was no light in them compared to the usual light. 

Ryan Bondy: Exactly. There was always some sort of a kindness in his eyes even if he was being kind of weird and obscure, you knew he was just having fun with somebody. But that was the first interview where I was like "huh, something definitely inside has changed" and he’s kind of has this idea that, and I’m not against his idea or the belief that this could be true- he’s kind of broken everything down in a way that like we don’t exist and we are all these kind of particles kind of coming together to create personality and to try to define ourselves like "if this is the way I feel, this is the way I wanna look, therefore, I am playing this part where I am deciding to be this person or this personality". It just kind of has this weird, not weird, I shouldn’t say weird but it’s very beyond my space of thinking enlightenment that he’s found in his life. It’s going to be interesting over the next little bit but I’m a little scared. I got to be honest. I’m a little like "hmmm". 

D.J. Demers: Yeah, I agree. So what you said about enlightenment? Far beyond for me to know, I don’t profess to be a guru of any sort but I would argue that enlightenment and pain often come hand in hand and so uh- I mean I don’t know if that’s a dangerous idea because a lot of people say the same thing about like artistry but I think that whatever enlightenment he’s experienced- here’s the thing, I couldn’t imagine being as famous as Jim Carey. 

Ryan Bondy: I wouldn’t want to. 

D.J. Demers: And then playing the game- but then also another thing, he’s at that event so just by being there, it’s almost like you must care about this in some way. I’m just wondering what his end game is, like did she say something that set him off down that path or was that his intent to go to this event and say that or is he just at a point in his life where he’s like "this is the only message that I want people to get from any interaction with me". I don’t know what his MO was with that interview. 

Ryan Bondy: Yeah, right. There was an interview after in "W Magazine" that I wro-read, that I wrote. [laughing] "W Magazine". 

D.J. Demers: [laughing] Are you under a pseudonym or can I search Ryan Bondy's "W" articles online? 

Ryan Bondy: No it just came up in my Facebook feed because you are looking up Jim Carrey stuff, let's be real here. 

D.J. Demers: [laughing] You know, there’d be no shame in that. I’d be very proud of you if -there'd be no shame in that, I’d be very proud of you if you wrote for a great publication like that. 

Ryan Bondy: Thank you. I know you’d be very proud if I ever wrote anything. 

D.J. Demers: [laughing] Okay, so what was the article in the "W Magazine"? 

Ryan Bondy: I know that you were saying that maybe this interviewer said something that would kind of set him off in a direction. It may have been like "are you single and looking for a date for the event?", knowing the past kind of situations he had that were very dark for him. But in the "W" interview he was very much the same, taking the same stance as quoted in the article. So I think that was his state. I don’t think it was set off on the red carpet kind of thing, but he did say that he is less depressed than, there is no depression in his life, there’s just acceptance that he does not exist and none of this matters. So that’s kind of weird. 

D.J. Demers: I think that all the time and I don’t mean that in a dark way, but I just think about the history of this planet and how many people are currently on it. All of these things whenever I am feeling any stress I remind myself and it actually 

really helps me just relax and just be present. So I think about that but I am not fully invested in the idea. There is some part of me that still gives meaning to everything that’s around me and the idea of going full out like Jim Carrey right now and divesting yourself of that idea, just being like "no, I fully believe none of this matters and we don’t matter". That’s a very scary thought for me because then you are unmoored. This reality is all I really have. If I didn’t believe in it, like oh shit. 

Ryan Bondy: He also has a very different filter to kind of view that and maybe accept that kind of idea and way of living into his life, because think about the attention and the- I don’t want to say validation, but the attention that he gets every single time he is seen or walks out somewhere. 

D.J. Demers: Oh my God. I think what he’s saying is a very specific rejection of the opposite that he’s experienced. So him saying none of this matters is like the polar opposite of what he’s felt his whole life of everybody telling him, "you matter, you are Jim Carrey, I love you, you give my life meaning". He probably had to push back against that idea so hard because I couldn’t imagine when millions of people told you that every day. 

Ryan Bondy: Yeah. He puts a smile on your face, tweet up and gets like millions of retweets and comments. It’s literally that insane. 

D.J. Demers: Yeah, so. It’s kind of "be careful what you wish for" type thing, but that being said, Jim Carrey’s career has been incredible, so I don’t even know, I don’t know. How do you deal with fame? I was talking about this a few episodes ago, I think Justin Bieber is about to go off the rails. I just mean I don’t if it's again, the past month or two has been me estimating that he’s a- he's probably- I hope not. 

Ryan Bondy: He’s due for an off-railing? 

D.J. Demers: My theory was- he’s getting into his mid-20s now and when you are young and you get money and that kind of fame, it's intoxicating I’d imagine but you don’t fully know what to do with it. Now he’s getting to the age where he’s like- I mean, I changed when I was around 25. I started getting more sure of things and I couldn’t imagine hitting that kind of 25 change and then you are Justin Bieber? I just feel like- I don’t know, I hope nothing but at the same time, that level of fame I couldn’t even comprehend. I couldn’t imagine it not damaging you in a pretty significant way. 

Ryan Bondy: I mean the damage is sometimes and the damage that kind of fame does is so immediately public. And the way that people can skew stories and stuff like that to make people believe one thing when literally the opposite is the fact. It’s amazing how to have world- I mean people will say, everybody on this planet knows who Michael Jackson is or was and then everybody knows Justin Bieber. Like it’s insane and I’m sure the same goes for Jim Carrey, I don’t know like on a world scale and like- 

D.J. Demers: Jim Carrey is gigantic. 

D.J. Demers: On a world scale, Jim Carrey is gigantic. People know and love Jim Carrie. 

Ryan Bondy: Absolutely. So to have your faults, how much would that mess up your brain to think that you can’t change now because this would happen and people would skew this a certain way. I just watch the Heath Ledger, "I am Heath Ledger" documentary. Oh my Gosh, this thing is unbelievable. Like it’s unbelievable. 

Ryan Bondy: Pardon me? 

D.J. Demers: No sorry, keep going. 

Ryan Bondy: Oh, it was just the idea that, you know, we as a society, I am sure most of us kind of grabbed on to the idea that it happened around the time where he was the Joker. And then it got so deep and dark into that part that really fucked him up and it took him down a road that ended up, you know, causing him to take his own life, when really, the story is not that at all. You got to watch the movie but it was very accidental and then when you watch this movie, all of that doubt that you had that it was a purposeful suicide is removed and yes, the movie is done by his loved ones and a lot of his family and stuff like that, but it really takes- he had his demons but in a time of his life where he finally worked towards a part that he loved and had fun, there is a snippet of an interview that he is talking about when he’s doing the Joker, where he's like "This is- I can be so artistic and free with this part. It is the greatest thing ever". 

It was just he was battling other things in his life that caused him to kind of put together the wrong cocktail one night and it was an accident, but we as a society rather like getting the real info or what we think is real info from these magazines and other people, we decide to define that as truth so quickly. I couldn’t imagine being so famous that an entire section of the world can form an opinion on you that 

is truth. And you begin to believe it’s yourself sometimes in some of these cases with celebrities. 

D.J. Demers: Yeah, and being so famous at the Jones Bureau Baptist church comes and marches at your funeral with pickets sign because you played a game in "Brokeback Mountain". 

Ryan Bondy: Yeah, ridiculous. 

D.J. Demers: Like what are you doing? This is a man who just pursued acting, the thing he loved and then he died tragically. Get the hell out of here! This isn’t a place for your message. So, you and I have a- well, first of all before I get into this, can you just say like- uuuh, fucking bastard. 

Ryan Bondy: What happened? 

D.J. Demers: No, I’m just asking you to say "fucking bastard". 

Ryan Bondy: You just want to me to say "fucking bastard". 

D.J. Demers: Yeah, yeah I just wanted you to swear cause I’m gonna ask you a question I don’t want you to answer in a way where you are like "Oh, I want my mom and dad to be okay with this answer". 

Ryan Bondy: Fuck, fuck, shitty ball, fuck, fuck, fuck. 

D.J. Demers: I got the swear word out of you so you won’t want to share it with them. With that being said, you swear a lot in the book of Mormon and they love you in that. 

Ryan Bondy: So, you want my parents to hear the answer to this question is that what you’re saying? So you don’t want me to swear. 

D.J. Demers: I want them to listen to this episode. I just don’t want you to feel like you’re disavowing them with this next question which is: you grew up really religious, I know you very well, you aren’t that really religious anymore, would you say you’ve like completely abandoned the Catholic church or is there some part of you that still feels a connection with it? 

Ryan Bondy: I would say I have completely abandoned the Catholic church. I would say that just because I completely view it separately from any sort of connection or journey that I want to go on to live life as a good person to see what, you know, my consciousness goes to after. I think there are a lot of things growing up that the Catholic church kind of allowed me to access as a believer in faith or kind of what was up there. A believer in faith, you know. 

D.J. Demers: By the way, if I’m putting you with the question on the spot, if you don’t want to answer it, that’s fine. 

Ryan Bondy: No, I do, I want to answer this. I would say that yes, the Catholic church is, I don’t believe in the Catholic church but I can’t in my head completely let go of the fact that I believe that something is up there. Whether or not there is a God, I just don’t think that there is a direct, correct path of religion to get there. I don’t think religion as an institution or- is the answer. I think it’s just being a ridiculously good person and loving everybody. 

I know that's kind of cliché to say but it is just literally all about love and if we are supposed to go up somewhere and our consciousness go somewhere after this, then being a good person is the answer and it is not through any sort of religion. But it took me a long time to kind of shake the Catholic church from my brain because as you grow up, you get into your late 20s and you think like, "oh yeah", cause I moved out of the house when I was 17, because it was just too crazy. My parents were at that time very kind of Catholic extremists to a certain point and I was just like "what the fuck is this? This is not right". And then as you say that you kind of, "I’m not that and I’m not that" but like the root of how scary- I mean, for me Catholic religion kind of buried this- the main thing about Catholic is Catholic guilt and it took me till I would say about the age of 26, I’m 31 now, but 26 to actually totally be rid of Catholic guilt. 

D.J. Demers: I don’t know if you’ll ever be fully rid of it because it’s indoctrinated in you at such a young age that it becomes this idea like I wasn’t raised nearly as religious as you, and it’s still the idea against which I have to fight. You know what I mean? Like everything, all the argument to my mind is still centered around like whether I believe in that. That was the first story that was implanted in me. So it’s a pesky little idea. 

Ryan Bondy: I mean, do you think that rather it being like you fighting what you were raised as religion, or was it just your conscience. 

D.J. Demers: Yea, I think you are right. I agree with you. I am not sure if I believe in a higher power, I’d really like to, but I do agree with you that just being nice to everybody and trying to make the world a better place than when you came into it, that’s kind of the point of it. That’s what I’ve deduced from my 31 years on this planet. And that doesn’t mean you’re guaranteed anything either, but I feel like good things will happen if that’s kind of your mission. 

Ryan Bondy: There was a story that somebody told me a while ago. In the Catholic religion, there is a prayer that said that Mary the mother of God will be there for you at the hour of your death. So there’s a lot of story that says "oh, this has to be real because these people saw Mary when they died", you know, they physically saw her and then there are also stories of little kids, very sick kids like dying and them seeing like Superman and Batman and other heroes; is it because we feel- who we feel protected by? 

D.J. Demers: Yeah, but the Marvel- the Marvel universe is big, man. It’s like Hinduism, they have many gods. 

Ryan Bondy: Right, so I’m just saying, we just project who we feel safe by and our brain releases that. Whether or not you’re just tripping balls seeing Mary or tripping balls seeing the Hulk. It’s your brain literally comforting you and projecting a hero in a time of need, I guess. 

D.J. Demers: I got to say I never knew that before and I hope the Hulk comes to me in my moment of death. [laughing] 

Ryan Bondy: Are you talking Mark Ruffalo Hulk or Eric Bana Hulk. Or Edward Norton? 

D.J. Demers: I got to go Mark Ruffalo cause- no, no, definitely not Edward Norton. I think I’m gonna go with Ruffalo because the movie was better, I think. I also love Mark Ruffalo. Got to go Ruffalo Hulk. Last thing I see is Mark Ruffalo playing the Hulk and then... 

Ryan Bondy: What did you say? 

D.J. Demers: Oh my God. You know, I love the idea of something funny happening right before you die. 

Ryan Bondy: Oh yeah, I mean of course you do. I mean, why wouldn’t you? 

D.J. Demers: Have you seen Sarah Silverman’s last comedy special, "A Speck of Dust?" 

Ryan Bondy: Yeah, yeah, I have. When she gets wheeled out. 

D.J. Demers: Oh my God. She’s having this surgery where it is like pretty invasive and things could go wrong, thankfully they didn’t, but so she does a joke about how she was like all being drugged up and being funny right before she got wheeled into the surgery and then right before the doctor was about to pull her through the door, she calls out to her boyfriend and she’s like, "Mike", whatever his name is, she’s like "Mike, Mike" and he's like "yeah?" and she’s like "I think we should see other people". [laughing] I love the idea that she’s about to go in for this crazy surgery and she still got that comedian brain to be like "they still get a big laugh". 

Ryan Bondy: I haven’t necessarily always been an enormous Sarah Silverman fan. I just wasn’t invested and I didn’t have enough information but- especially with the stand-ups, I’ve seen her in movies and stuff before but, yeah, no, it was pretty great. It was pretty great. 

D.J. Demers: So, the reason I asked about the Catholicism, that’s not the reason I asked, I don’t need to use that as a segway. The next thing I want to talk about is - we’ve known each other from teenage years. We kind of didn’t see each other for a bit, I stopped playing baseball, I went to a different post secondary institution than you. We didn’t see each other for a good like 6 or 7 years, I’d say. 

Ryan Bondy: Yea. It was definitely a while cause- you did a four-year program at Waterloo or Laurier? 

D.J. Demers: Wilfrid Laurier. Yes, business. I’m a businessman. . 

Ryan Bondy: I’m a businessman, I’m a businessman. 

D.J. Demers: I’m not a business man, I’m a business maaan. 

Ryan Bondy: Yes, I think there was like six years. 

D.J. Demers: And then I came into Toronto. Yes, it was like six years cause I stopped playing at like 15. I go to school and everything. I graduate when I was 22. So let’s say 6 or 7 years. I moved to Tortonto to do stand-up comedy after I finished school. You’ve already finished acting school there. 

Ryan Bondy: Yep. 

D.J. Demers: We hook up on Facebook, like "hey". You’re like "you’re moving to Toronto?", I’m like "yeah, I’ll hit you up when I’m there". We get together and right away hit it off like gangbusters like the last 7 years didn’t even happen and now we are hanging out all the time again in Toronto. Both trying to pursue our respective dreams and we use to say "oh, we are gonna do it man, we are gonna do it". And we went through the low times. I believe the low times were super fun. But now, you know, I’m now doing whatever it is I’m doing, being able to go around and tell jokes and you are the lead on one of the most successful plays of the last decade. I don’t have the stats on that but the book of Mormon and it’s funny because I tell the story all the time about how like right before you had those few Mormon auditions and you rock them and you got the opportunity of a lifetime, you were, you know, serving in Toronto. I mean, you had good momentum but- you were paying your hardest dues, bartending, serving and then all of a sudden with a few successful auditions- oh I should also mention that you were also playing in a band, a rock band. So you are keeping busy and you are trying to make it as an actor and then bam, all of a sudden, what is it like, five years ago now? 

Ryan Bondy: I just had my four year anniversary on September 10th. 

D.J. Demers: Four years? Four years ago now, you started working with the Book of Mormon, but you didn’t start out as a lead. You were to stand by to the lead , right? 

Ryan Bondy: Yeah, that’s correct. So the first couple years, the way these mega shows are kind of set out, they have this very "the show must go on" mentality because people are paying high price for tickets, so they have a couple 

backups for their lead roles. And they put these backups, I went through some pretty intense kind of auditioning processing and really making sure that they knew you could do the show before they put you on stage for their mega musical. So, I was a stand by for Elder Price for about two years. So the way a standby works is a little different than an understudy. An understudy- I’m sure you’ve heard that, plays a different role but also understudy one of the principal characters. 

But a standby only does the lead role when the lead can’t. So they don’t do anything else, their job is to be at the theater in case the lead either gets sick or gets hurt and then they can be thrown on in the middle of the show at some point. I did, I think I did 11 or actually nine mid-shows. So nine, get the knock on your dressing room door and they’d be like "you need to get dressed, you are going on" and you are like "holy shit". 

D.J. Demers: Over the two years? 

Ryan Bondy: Sorry, go ahead? 

D.J. Demers: The nine was over the two years that you were standby? 

Ryan Bondy: Yeah, the nine was over those two years with a couple of different companies. So I started off two years or started off a year being a standby for the second national tour and then I got moved to Broadway to be the standby there. I got lucky enough to actually get to do 12 straight performances on Broadway, made my Broadway debut which was really really cool. Actually, my Broadway debut was like, the three quarters of the show was done already, and the Elder Price that was playing at the time, he snapped his calf muscle during one of the songs. 

D.J. Demers: Oh, man. 

Ryan Bondy: So he limped through one of the songs while I was getting dressed to literally go on stage and finished the last 20 minutes. 

D.J. Demers: And that’s your Broadway debut? 

Ryan Bondy: In my Broadway debut, I had to finish the last 20 minutes of the show. 

D.J. Demers: Oh my God. That’s the stuff of nightmares. 

Ryan Bondy: Right? And then I was like, I can’t believe that just happened. 

D.J. Demers: How about the stuff of dreams? Were you excited when it happened, how were you feeling? 

Ryan Bondy: It’s funny the way your brain works and I have been thrown on half way through the show before. Your brain works in a weird way where it kind of goes into like "it's business time mode". You know it’s like, "it’s time to kick ass" and I was nervous, but those nerves, you just don’t have time for them. 

D.J. Demers: It’s either sink or swim, right? 

Ryan Bondy: Pardon me? 

D.J. Demers: It’s either sink or swim in that moment. You’ve worked for it. 

Ryan Bondy: Exactly. Yeah. So you just kind of go with the flow and just kind of- and with a show like that you know you are in good hands when you step on stage and everybody else is- [beeping sound] that is my GoPro running out of battery. 

You know that the people on stage are there to support you and would have done the show so like my co-star Ben Platt. Tony award-winning Ben Platt. 

D.J. Demers: Incredible. 

Ryan Bondy: So he was Cunningham at the time and for the audience to see a new Price, like a new lead come on stage when the show is almost done. They try to announce but they try to announce it during the song, so music being played and the stage manager came on and was like, "now for the remainder of the performance playing Elder Price will be Ryan Bondy" and the people were "what the hell was that?" 

D.J. Demers: Oh my God. 

Ryan Bondy: So I come out on stage to do a scene and the audience is like "m?" and Ben was smart enough - there was a line that kind of facilitated this reaction, he was supposed to say "Elder Price are you okay?" and instead Ben goes "Elder Price, you dyed your hair". Because the guy that was playing Price before was blonde and I was very much different and then the audience, literally, we had to stop the show. Not stopped the show, but paused for 30 seconds for the audience to just go nuts. 

D.J. Demers: Wow, that’s some great improv. 

Ryan Bondy: It was such a cool thing to experience for Broadway. The first thing just stopping for 30 seconds staring at your scene partner while they laugh and just love it and then right away they were on board. It was probably one of the loudest applauses I have ever got because that stuff- in your head is like "Oh, we didn’t get to see the lead do the whole show", that kind of stuff is cool to talk about when you go home. You didn’t just see a show, you saw something happen where the understudy had to be swung on halfway through and it’s actually in the moment, in the building at that time is ridiculously exciting and the energy that this new kind of thing produces between audience and actor on stage is like something you can only really experience in that time. So, yeah. 

D.J. Demers: Any time as an audience member you feel like you’ve witnessed something that was once in a lifetime, in the moment, there’s a certain magic to that. That’s where that laughter came from - everybody acknowledging the exact same thing at the same time in one room. That’s the kind of power he had in that moment, he came up with the perfect line, it makes them comfortable, it makes you comfortable, that’s why he’s a Tony award winner right there. 

Ryan Bondy: Ben Platt, the man. 

D.J. Demers: Yeah, you said he was really nice from the moment you met him, right? 

Ryan Bondy: Yes, because he was doing the tour in Chicago when I joined the show in Chicago and I- I could probably say Chicago one more time. 

D.J. Demers: Or sing a Chicago song, whichever you prefer. 

Ryan Bondy: By the way, Chicago is one of my favorite cities in the entire world. If you do go to Chicago- 

D.J. Demers: Chicago is incredible. We’ve had some good times in Chicago. 

Ryan Bondy: We’ve had some great times in Chicago. 

D.J. Demers: Hey, enough about Ben Platt and Chicago. Nice guy, I’m glad he was good to you. Let’s talk about our good times in Chicago. 

Ryan Bondy: Oh, yeah. 

D.J. Demers: Hold on. So Bondy, I don't mean to interrupt but I’ve gone to visit you five different times while you've been to various places on this tour. I’ve seen the Book of Mormon five times, which has been amazing to see your best friend be the lead in the Book of Mormon in Denver, Chicago, Charlotte, L.A. and? 

Ryan Bondy: There is one more. 

D.J. Demers: We’ll think of it. So, I come to visit you in Chicago and that city, man. 

Ryan Bondy: Chicago twice, actually. 

D.J. Demers: Yeah, Chicago twice. 

Ryan Bondy: You came right away before I’d even done a show yet, and then you came again, like a couple of years later. 

D.J. Demers: Oh, yeah. 

Ryan Bondy: Remember when we stuck that basketball net under the side of the wall? The thing with D.J., our friendship and I, we love to create these little games and it's usually facilitated by D.J. and its become this thing where it could be just like catching a beer cap and like you just randomly throwing it, like throwing a ball back and forth, some sort of game that we create for ourselves to kind of keep up. 

D.J. Demers: I love games so much and Bondy, you love games so much. So like, we can just wither away hours if we found a rock, we could make it work. 

Ryan Bondy: We came up with this game. You remember the Frisbee game, on the beach? So there was this game. We basically were on a beach and we have set about, I don't know, maybe twenty yards between us and we have this Frisbee and we've set like goal posts. And the game was that you had to throw the Frisbee at a catchable height. It couldn’t have been uncatchable past the other person. 

D.J. Demers: Rules were important. 

Ryan Bondy: So that game was unreal, but then, just because DJ was like "we need to up this, we need to make this the best thing ever", we created that you had to do a push up in the sand right after you threw it and get up after the push up to make sure that that guy did not throw the Frisbee by your goal. [laughing] 

D.J. Demers: That’s one of my favourite games I’ve ever played in my life. I forgot all about that. That was amazing. 

Ryan Bondy: That game was amazing and then you could just run into the ocean and go for a swim but I’ve never been more sore or exhausted after that game. Oh man, you are doing push ups on the beach so like eventually, and D.J. and I, I know D.J. embraces this very publicly all of the time- I also am man with a very hairy chest. So there is nothing like sand in your chest hair. There really isn’t. I don’t know if there is any other sensation that’s better than the exfoliant that sand is in chest hair around your nipples. 

D.J. Demers: Oh my God. Who do you think’s hairier? I think I’m hairier than you. 

Ryan Bondy: I think you are. I think you are hairier than me, but I also have very straight hair. Your's curls a little or on your chest so it creates this kind of darker, thicker kind of appearance. Mine is so straight. 

D.J. Demers: Yes, like I said folks, we are best friends. 

Ryan Bondy: Absolutely. You have a little bit more on your back than I do. I got a little hair up by my neck and on my shoulders. 

D.J. Demers: That crept up in the last couple of years. I’m gonna get it waxed on this tour coming up, I think. 

Ryan Bondy: No way. Don’t do it or let me be there for it. Are you serious? 

D.J. Demers: I am, I’m gonna film it. We’re gonna have a video camera the whole time. I’ll try to think of fun things to do. I don’t know if that falls under the category of fun. 

Ryan Bondy: I had my back waxed once and it hurt. 

D.J. Demers: I’m gonna cry. I’m gonna cry. 

Ryan Bondy: You are gonna absolutely cry. I remember once when I was a kid, I had hairy nipples, oh man. Lucky you have kind of- 

D.J. Demers: Oh, I’m not doing my chest, I’m only doing my back. 

Ryan Bondy: Are you gonna do the whole thing? 

D.J. Demers: I don’t know man. This is a new idea and now you got me all scared. 

Ryan Bondy: A little piece of advise from my mother and this is weird. When I was a kid and I was running for student council president, little drop there, I wanted to do this food drive thing so like as the way to food increase, the president or I would have to do a certain thing like this amount of poundage I would get my nails done by the cosmetology class and at the top was, I would get my legs waxed in the cafeteria, and I had hairy legs in high school. And my mother and when I came I said, "look at this cool idea", she was like "Ryan, you are not gonna want to do that", and I was like "what?", she was like "they are gonna rip off the first piece of tape, first piece of wax in front of everybody and you are going to wish you were dead". I was like "what? no Ma, I think it will be fine", she’s like "Ryan, Ryan, I’m telling you, it’s the worst decision you are ever gonna make". And I proved her wrong 

on that, but it never got to the weight where I had to wax my leg so I’ll never know, but it was there. The beads of sweat were forming and I was like "oh Gosh" and then I never had to do it. 

D.J. Demers: Oh my God, I couldn’t imagine in front of everybody. 

Ryan Bondy: But you are about to imagine. Dude, you are filming this. 

D.J. Demers: Well I haven’t told anybody on the crew about it yet, so I’m not part committed. 

Ryan Bondy: You told people here, so I think they are gonna wanna see this. 

D.J. Demers: Hey, listen: you can’t tell me I only have four listeners earlier and then now tell me I have a big enough group listening that they can influence my decision. It can’t go both ways. 

Ryan Bondy: Dude, you only need one person to tell you what to do. Another four is just like, you know, that you are gonna do it for sure. Jump off this, D.J. or how about you treat a child’s play ground like American Ninja Warrior or obstacle course and break your wrist in China. You know these things. 

D.J. Demers: You can find that video online, folks, "broke my wrist in China". I looked very unathletic in that video. 

Ryan Bondy: But it was also the weather, man. It was slippery. 

D.J. Demers: It was cold out there. It was very cold. It wasn’t prime optical course condition. 

Ryan Bondy: No. 

D.J. Demers: Let’s talk about the big news here. 

Ryan Bondy: Okay. What big new are we talking? We always have big news. 

D.J. Demers: Always good news. The most recent good news, you just proposed to your girlfriend, the lovely Hillary last week and she said yeah. 

Ryan Bondy: And she said yeah. Right from her mouth. She was like "yeah". 

D.J. Demers: "Yeah, sure". 

Ryan Bondy: She did, she said yes. And so I am an engaged man. I met my Aussie girlfriend here and it’s been quite amazing. She’s the lovely Hillary Cole. She’s from Melbourne, Australia originally and she says that my Aussie accent isn’t actually that good, but I’m working on it. Because at some point I want my kids to be Aussie, but with them living in America, they are probably not gonna sound too Aussie. 

D.J. Demers: You are gonna be insufferable, you love other accents. I bet you are doing that Aussie accent all the time, you son of a gun. 

Ryan Bondy: Absolutely, you think I’d go grocery shopping without being like "Yeah, thanks mate, that’s good". 

D.J. Demers: Oh my goodness. 

Ryan Bondy: There’s a couple of things. It’s funny when you want to do the Aussie accent and someone tells you to do it and then I all of a sudden just can’t if I’m thinking about it too much. But if I’m just chilling out by myself or with other people and just kind of sneak it in, it’s when it’s the best. So right now, don’t judge what my Aussie accent sounds like but it’s kind of good. Anyway, back to the engagement, yes, Hillary is the absolute love of my life. 

D.J. Demers: When are you gonna do an Australian accent? 

Ryan Bondy: You want me to do it in Australian. Australian. But she’s the best, she’s a performer here. We were introduced through a friend because they saw how kind of compatible we probably could be and he same person that we are and over time- like I came to Australia, I was like "Nah, I’m not falling in love, I’m going to have a rock star time here, it’s gonna be great" and then I'll think about, you know, settling down when I get back home. Then Hillary came along and it was just 

right off the bat. We just loved hanging out with each other and laughing together and it was just- honestly, I can’t wait for you to meet her. You haven’t even met her yet and she’s already my fiancé. Have you found my fiancé? Have you seen my fiancé? Tell my fiancé I’m looking for her. 

D.J. Demers: You said you were going to move to Australia and just live the rock star life. But what did a few of your friends say was gonna happen? Myself included. 

Ryan Bondy: Oh, D.J. was one of them. All of the people I worked with, like company management, you know, producers alike, they all said "you are gonna go to Australia and you are gonna find your wife, the love of your life", and I was so just like, "guys, that is the most ridiculous thing you could come up with right now. I know I’m a guy for love, I know I fall in love a lot, but this is not gonna happen". And it did. And in the greatest of ways too, because I was able to let my guard down and I wasn’t looking for it. You find a very different love when you are not looking for it and it becomes the truest, I think. 

D.J. Demers: I got to say- 

Ryan Bondy: That’s Hillary. 

D.J. Demers: I love how you are such a fan of love and that takes away nothing from your love for Hillary but I just mean I admire that you are just like you believe in love so much and that’s why I said it. I was like "all Bondy’s gonna need to do is to meet somebody who is like capable and just return that kind of love and it’s over". I figured that would happen in Australia and from everything you’ve told me, and I’ve talked to her a couple of times, Hillary seems great and it’s like, it’s over. 

Ryan Bondy: Yes, it’s really the reciprocated love. Love is what it is, at the same level and if not more from her and she’s just a constant support. It’s pretty incredible when you stop chasing or wanting something from somebody else that they aren’t willing to give or can’t give or capable of giving. When you find somebody that is able to do that and to match you, it’s awesome. And so I put a ring on it. I put a nice ring on it. 

D.J. Demers: And you did that at a Go-Carting course. 

Ryan Bondy: Yes, she knew kind of cause we talked about getting married and stuff like that. You know when you are dealing with like, you know, issues like taking somebody out of a country and move into another country, it kind of got complicated. She knew I was doing the research around what the possibility and the likelihood of this actually happening. So we knew we were going to get engaged at some point and I needed to find a way to kind of really mask this and to kind of make it so it wasn’t so obvious that this was the day. 

Cause she’s doing a show in Brisbane right now and for those of you who don’t know Australia, it’s kind of about two hours flight from where I’m at in Melbourne in the southern tip of Australia. So we see each other every weekend for a short amount of time so if I planned like a dinner being like "Oh, we are going to go to dinner and going to go to this and go to that", she would catch on, she’s pretty smart that way. But early days her and her brother had a very competitive relationship when it comes to go-carting. They go-carted when they were kids and teenagers to a point where Tom, her brother, was like trying to become like a professional racer. Like, to the point where he used to race model cars and he was just all into racing. And he and Hill always had, she’s amazing, she’d blew us away. We went go-carting very early in our relationship with the buddy of mine and this guy at the go-carting track was like "Okay, here’s some protocol and some etiquette for when you are passing, so when you are coming up to pass this little lady here on the course" and I’m like "Hillary", from behind you could just see her put her visor down and was like, "let’s do this". And these are go-cart tracks, these are go-cart tracks. They have lockers where people have helmets and gloves put aside for them because they go so often. And Hillary had the third best time of the day and the sixth best time of the week. She’s amazing. So I had dinner with her brother and his fiancé, they just got engaged too. I kind of said that I wanted to propose to Hillary and to create I just don’t know how I’m gonna do it yet, and Tom had mentioned that they wanted to go go-carting and we had planned a long time ago that we were gonna go go-carting with them. I was like "that’s the perfect time, let’s do this". So we planned to go go-carting and Hillary had no idea because this was something we wanted to do a long time ago. So she came down and I had arranged with the go-carting place, there is a video online if you want to check it out. I had arranged with the go-cart place that I was gonna do this. We were gonna do some laps and then I was gonna come off of the track and they were gonna keep doing laps and when I was ready, they were going to let me kneel down in the middle of the track and kind of put the yellow lights on which means every car had to slow down and Hillary was gonna come around the corner and it worked out so perfectly. 

D.J. Demers: I’d like to watch the video. I’d like to watch the YouTube video of that ending horribly. 

Ryan Bondy: Oh right, like Hillary just not stopping and running me over? 

D.J. Demers: Yeah, they forgot to put the flag up. I mean I’d like for you to live but I just mean I think it would have more viral potential. But anyway, sorry. Keep going. 

Ryan Bondy: We could just redo it. Just the alternate ending. So I get there and everything is planned out, like they are gonna put a song on and a picture on the Jumbotron scoreboard, and when I say Jumbotron, it was that a classroom projector, white screen, but put our picture up. So it all worked out like, and these guys at the go-carting place were so- jones that this was happening because no one had ever proposed at a go-carting place before or at their go-carting place before, I don’t know what the statistics are as far as a worldly percentage. I’d like to think that I’m the only one. So these guys were, they knew who I was, they were like "Oh, let’s get this done, mate, this is the way its gonna happen. This is the way its gonna go". And there were some people earlier that were go-carting at a go-carting session that heard that this was gonna happen, so they stayed around the bar and they also kind of hung out on the seats and there’s a particular term very similar to what we call Hicks. They call them Bogan here, Bogan. It is very classic of what you think an Aussie would sound like or somebody putting on an Aussie accent, these people exist. So they all kind of hung around and they were standing up on the rails and I had the GoPro setup the whole time so you see the guy like kick the siding away so I could pull in underneath and he takes my helmet and he sets it up and these guys are so pumped. They even tested the camera angle to make sure that they got it right, you know, and then I was able to go out on the track and she came around, had no idea what was going on. And then she saw me in a distance and she was kind of like pulling up and the guy kind of goes up and stops and she said "what’s going on?" and he’s like "oh, you need to drive up there". And Hillary goes to the guy "why is he taking a picture?". Because she thought I was just taking a picture with the GoPro. And the guy at the go-cart track was like "look closer" and he turned off her go-cart and just pushed her toward me and she slowly rolled up and finally realized what was happening and our song was playing and you know, her brother and his fiancé Janel were there and, you know, she said yes and in the background our cheering squad like "she said yes", they all start screaming. [laughing] And I didn’t plan this, 

the manager comes out with just a bottle of champagne and like we popped the champagne and were drinking on the track, not driving afterwards of course, but just drinking and having a great time and then it was a very, very special moment and then after I planned, a bunch of people, about 30 people to meet us at a bar afterwards when I said we have dinner reservations and showed up and, you know, Hillary got to celebrate with all of her friends here and it was just kind of one of those evenings like, that was awesome. It was just something obviously I’ll remember for the rest of my life. I’m glad I got a video footage of it too but it was pretty magical. 

D.J. Demers: Yeah, and what was the name of this wonderful go-carting track in Australia that let you do this? 

Ryan Bondy: If you guys are ever in town, in Australia, you need to go see "Oz Carts". You need to go to "Oz Carts", it’s located- I really wish I had the address on standby here so I could actually do an ad for them but "Oz Carts". It’s an indoor Australian go-carting place. Fantastic. The carts go ridiculously fast. You are going, I think, 55 km/hour, that close to the ground, indoors. 

D.J. Demers: Dude, bro. I’m in America, bro. Miles or get the fuck out. 

Ryan Bondy: So I would say like 35 miles an hour. 

D.J. Demers: That’s better. 

Ryan Bondy: Okay, working on it. Dust off all the old imperial stuff, you know, got to get back to miles. I got to get back to kilometers. 

D.J. Demers: Are we the only ones in the world not doing metric, I think? I’m not sure. America? 

Ryan Bondy: Does that sound shocking to you? I don’t think so. 

D.J. Demers: I asked our friend, before I move on, I’m very happy for you, brother. It’s a very creative way to get engaged. A lot of people would come up with some shitty ideas, that’s a good one. You done good. 

Ryan Bondy: Hey thanks, bud. 

D.J. Demers: You know how to make a woman feel special. You know how to make a man feel special and speaking of making men feel special, I’ve got a question from our good friend, Chris Depaul. That was a weird segway for Chris. Chris is another one of our great friends and I asked him if he had anything he wanted me to ask you about. 

Ryan Bondy: Oh, really? 

D.J. Demers: And he just wanted to bring up that, while we were all still just kicking it back in Toronto a good four or five years ago, you went through a weird phase in which you joined a biker gang, like a motorcycle gang, but you didn’t own a motorbike. [laughing] 

Ryan Bondy: [laughing] No, I didn’t. 

D.J. Demers: And you were just going through a generally dark time in your life, in his estimation. Can you elaborate on what was going through 25-year-old Ryan Bondy’s head? I was hanging out with you at the time, and I didn’t have any clue of what was going through your head, but you joined a biker gang. You got the vest, you got the patches, you were in it to win it, you were wearing it around town, you didn’t own a motorcycle, take me through your thought process on that one. [laughing] 

Ryan Bondy: I had no idea that this was gonna come up but I love that it has. Um- so there was a gentleman at work, a gentleman. When you are starting a biker gang, you have to refer to him as a gentleman. 

D.J. Demers: It’s a noble enterprise. 

Ryan Bondy: It was a club, it wasn’t a gang. We have to be straight there. Gangs kill people, clubs raise money. 

D.J. Demers: Clubs don’t even have to have motorbikes. 

Ryan Bondy: Yeah, so we- [laughing] 

D.J. Demers: They just raise money. Hold on, didn’t you have to get a patch that said like "claim no ground" or "stake no ground" so the real gangs would take mercy upon you. 

Ryan Bondy: Exactly, so there was this guy who came along, he had a passion for motorcycles and the real story behind it is him and his father always kind of wanted to start a back club together. Bike clubs do exist in the sense that they do poker runs and show up at events to raise money for prostate cancer. 

D.J. Demers: My dad’s part of one. 

Ryan Bondy: Your dad did? 

D.J. Demers: My dad’s part of the biker club, like a good one, not a gang. 

Ryan Bondy: Amazing, yes. 

D.J. Demers: Yes. 

Ryan Bondy: So these things do exist and it's bike enthusiasts that love to ride their bikes around and raise money. So he always kind of wanted to start one with his dad. And his father passed away and as a token to his dad, he wanted to start this biker club. And I saw kind of in him, the passion that he had for bikes and I, in the small part of my brain was like "yeah, I could ride a motorcycle someday". And he came up to me because I had expressed interest, he came up to me and was like "look, I want you to be part of the originals of my biker club. Are you thinking of getting a motorcycle?". And I said "yes". 

D.J. Demers: [laughing] Did he ask you on a Go-Cart track? 

Ryan Bondy: No, it wasn’t on a Go Cart track. I said yes, he’s like, "okay, so it’s the wintertime right now. As long as you have your lessons booked to learn how to ride a motorcycle by the summer and there is some pursuit into getting a motorcycle, we want you to be a part of this club". [laughing] 

D.J. Demers: [laughing] Oh my God, was that your biker adage, your creed, your motto, "in the pursuit of getting a motorcycle"? 

Ryan Bondy: Yes, "in the pursuit of getting a motorcycle, I Ryan Bondy here by solemnly swear to give up all of my Monday nights to drink beer and talk about motorcycles even though I don’t have one". 

D.J. Demers: So you’ve got to tell the story. You are wearing the vest one night, you don’t even have a bike, you met a lady- 

Ryan Bondy: We were "Devil’s progress" and our number was 667 as if the devil was progressing. So James, the president of this biker club, he had to go around, he actually had a meeting cause as we were getting the vests done, the guy that works at the biker shop was actually an ex Hells Angel or a current one, we didn’t actually know. So, he said "you need to have a meeting with the Toronto chapter of Hells Angels to make sure that- to find out the protocol to actually have a bike club". So James went and had a meeting with a Hells Angels. And the Hells Angels said "you guys can have a bike club as long as on your rocker, on your patch, rocker is the bottom portion of the vest, the patch on the back. And a lot of them will say, you know, California chapter or whatever ground you are essentially a part of, or covering or representing on the bottom of your patch. So the Hells Angels said "you have to claims no ground on your patch so you are not really a threat to anybody". 

So we got that done and we got these sick ass leather vests and he gave us all roles so there was a president, there was a vice president, there was a secretary which kind of kept all of the money kind of thing when it came to like, doing events and stuff like that. And then I was the tail gunner. And what the tail gunner is, it’s the guy that rides the back of the pack to kind of keep pack together so you don’t lose anybody behind on your destination. 

So we had meetings every Monday, we would show up at bars with our vests only two of the five guys had motorcycles. But we would walk to the bar, we’d walk to the bar supporting these vests, you know, walking around and people were like, "who are these guys?". You know there was this aura around us, we were super young wearing these biker vests and I’ve never owned a vest, let alone leather vest, I think in my entire life. [laughing] 

D.J. Demers: You were wearing leather gloves, too. 

Ryan Bondy: I had my leather gloves for the bike handles that I never ended up holding. 

D.J. Demers: Oh my goodness. I just have to say, the leather gloves killed me. As your dear friend, I respected the balls out like- you are just walking, you’re just asking 

for trouble especially you don’t have a bike and the story I remember is, you met a girl at the bar or whatever and she was like "so where is your bike?", you were like "oh, I actually don’t have one" and she just refused to believe you. 

Ryan Bondy: She literally was like, "that’s a lie, shut up, you’re just not telling me where your bike is", and I was like "no I actually don’t have one yet. I don’t even actually know how to ride one" And she’s like "oh yeah, shut up"- 

D.J. Demers: [laughing] "I haven’t taken my lessons yet". 

Ryan Bondy: This girl did not want to know my actual name. She just wanted me to be this biker guy. 

D.J. Demers: That’s amazing. 

Ryan Bondy It was a pretty awesome story that I’ll never tell my mother. But it was quite a fun time, it was basically guys hanging out once a week with this desire to ride around and now, I will say, "Devil’s Progress", this biker club has I think around 30 members and do charitable runs and James, I believe is still the president, and they do charitable runs, raising money and it’s one of the youngest bike clubs in Toronto. My tail gunner leather jacket with the crest is, I believe, hung in the clubhouse or given to somebody else, I would imagine. They haven’t really told me but whenever I do get around to never getting a motorcycle, I will get those gloves back and maybe, you know, go for a ride. 

But you guys were so supportive as friends, like you never really like, I mean, one of your friends suddenly decides to do that, for you guys was just kind of embrace what the hell I was going through at that time and man, I look back and think who the hell did I think I was? I was just recently like, broken up with my ex fiancé. I have done this a couple of times. 

D.J. Demers: You got engaged at like 24? 

Ryan Bondy: I got engaged when I was 23, actually. I was really, really young, turning 24. 

D.J. Demers: I remember, I remember man. I missed you during your teen years, but when I met you when I came into Toronto, it was just like right before the break up. I knew you when you were with your fiancé Laura. I don’t know if I needed 

to say her name but she’s a great person, you are still in contact with her. Actually she reaches out on my Facebook every once in a while. 

Ryan Bondy: Yeah. 

D.J. Demers: She's like "Hey, you want a bone?" and I'm like "Ugh, come on Laura, you know I'm friends with Ryan". No, I’m just kidding, oh my God, no. She says hello, I say hello back, she's great. Anyway, that was just me trying to make you laugh, no disrespect intended. [laughing] But I knew you back then, you were like "I’m going to get married, I’m going to have these two kids by the time I’m 28", like you had the road map all planned out and your life is very interesting because your road map deviated greatly. 

It’s been interesting to watch, I guess I’m saying is, cause I knew you when you were really young. You grew up in a really religious family. I’ve watched you go through your kind of phases of change. You know your 20s are a big time of change and it’s been cool to see but it’s also crazy because I haven't seen the last few years. Like we've seen each other in bits and pieces but our schedules have just been, yours especially have just been so nuts. So it’s been kind of been a long distance thing, then we find ways like we went golfing in Myrtle beach last year. We find ways but it’s not the same, like just hanging out every day and being in it, you know. 

Ryan Bondy: Yeah man, and it’s just one of those things I miss most and one of those things you kind of sacrifice when you go on tour and you're gonna feel it too, when you go on tour and you have been. Like this time in your life for like not having the same bed consistently every night or the same kind of routines, you don’t have your home. It’s an interesting thing to- when I was on tour for 2 or 3 ½ years before coming and settling down in Australia and there was this real, the glamour of tour life and friends, like seeing all of these things but the friends are what matter. Like even in the dark times, tough times as far as like living paycheck to paycheck and bartending a lot and just kind of like slugging it out, you and I, we had each other so it didn’t matter because I knew that I was going to be taking in the street cart, getting a couple of coffees, two biscotties and then I was gonna go hang out with you and figure out what we are going to do. 

D.J. Demers: Two coffee, two biscotties. That was a great ritual. 

Ryan Bondy: It was an awesome ritual and it became one of those things that no matter what was going on in life, that’s what mattered. I miss those days a lot we don’t skip a beat, you know, when we catch up and talk to each other and one 

day we would have it again. It’s just now that both of us are putting the nose to the grindstone and just kind of doing what we want. And it’s really cool as a friendships to also witness the low times, like the for you as a comedian when it came to like doing open mics with four comedians and the audience is just waiting to go up or seeing your jokes kind of take shape and watching you become a polished comedian and the way that your personality and comfort level and accessibility become this amazing thing on stage. Like over the years of watching you do it. As you said like watching me go through things, like I on the other side got to watch you do it too. To have that friend and to have that constant, no matter what was going on through those times, I think was one of the most if not the most important thing that kind of not kept us going but I think it was such a- It allowed us to take risks and focus on what we want even though people, maybe it wasn’t like the thing to do or the for sure like this is definitely gonna bring successful future but that didn’t matter to us. 

D.J. Demers: Well let’s be honest too, we were having a lot of fun. 

Ryan Bondy: Oh yeah, a lot of fun. 

D.J. Demers: Yes, it was great. That’s the thing when I think about the kind of sacrifices you need to make to follow a dream. It doesn’t seem so bad if you are having fun. And I think that’s what makes it the dream. 

Ryan Bondy: Yeah, if you can find a way, I think a lot of people on Twitter and Instagram asked me like "Any advice for somebody who is pursuing the arts or want to do a musical theater or whatever" and the best piece of advice I can really give or that I give to people is if you can find a way through the struggles and the unknown to just be happy, that is it. Because being happy with yourself and with your surrounding and with a friend, it allows you to be creative. It allows you to actually be yourself. It allows you to access things in your brain that aren’t bogged down by sadness or depression. Not that we don’t go through those things, but if you can have this kind of constant and you know you’re happy that’s what breeds great creativity and great art. And just life, man. 

I’ve had some of the best life with you and will continue to do so and to have that. Not everybody has that. Not everybody has that friend that they still talk to, that has known them since they were 11 or 9. And yeah, we had that little break, but now I feel like I’ve known you since then. It’s awesome, man. I love you dude, just getting all sappy and shit. 

D.J. Demers: I’m crying over here. 

Ryan Bondy: [singing] "I don’t know much but I know I love you and that maybe all I need to know". 

D.J. Demers: Oh my God dude, I had a podcast a few years ago for the media channel I worked for and me and you did it in L.A. like four years ago and at the end of the episode I was like "Ladies and gentlemen to close out the show, my good friend Aaron Neville" and you sung that song and then my dad after, he listened to it was like "how did you get Aaron Neville on the show?" 

Ryan Bondy: [laughing] Oh man. That's awesome. 

D.J. Demers: I was like "I didn’t get Aaron Neville on the show" but can you sing that again? We got to hear how amazing your Aaron Neville impression is. 

Ryan Bondy: Okay, ready? [singing] 

D.J. Demers: [laughing] Oh, that's a good stuff. Bondy, we got to wrap this up because it’s being over an hour and forty five minutes. and we’ve covered a vast array of topics. 

Ryan Bondy: I think we are covered. 

D.J. Demers: But I got to say you are the first guest who really addressed the listeners so directly and I appreciate that. I know they do too. 

Ryan Bondy: Oh, great. 

D.J. Demers: Where can everybody find you online? 

Ryan Bondy: Online you can find me on Instagram @Bondy34, on Twitter @RyanBondy34. Lots of cool posts. You can look at the YouTube stuff and my engagement and also if you do a deep enough you can find some old videos of D.J. and I doing our thing, way back when. If you look up, you’ve got to go to pornhub.com, there are some videos on there. Also just look up on YouTube Ryan and D.J. or the Bondy box, there are some stuff up there, some old stuff. 

D.J. Demers: That’s the stuff you search on Pornhub, Bondy box. 

Ryan Bondy: You can find some interesting thing. 

D.J. Demers: Okay well, thank you for promoting our new sponsor Pornhub. Everybody, we’ll be back next week. Thank you very much Ryan and see you later. 

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