Episode 21 - Nina Tarr
She's a comedian, a DJ, and an avowed cinephile. She also accurately guessed all of the so-called "lame" music that I love so very much (shout out to Jack Johnson). This week's guest is Nina Tarr!
on Twitter - @NinaTarr
on Instagram - @pizzaparty69
D.J. Demers: Hello everybody, welcome to “Definitely D.J.”. Episode number 21, pleasure is always to have ya. I had a great week. I had my mom visiting the entire week, and I’ve just been showing her all the sides. She’s been to L.A. a couple of times, when I did Conan the first time, I brought her out with me and uh- then last year when I was on “America’s Got Talent”, “America’s Got Talent” flew her out as well, because uh- you know, they always like to bring the moms out and show some footage of them crying and- they weren’t getting a lot of crying from me, so my mom gave them that. [laughing] Wasn’t hard to make her cry, they were like “So, are you proud of your son?”, she goes “Oh, my God”, this is too easy. But now she’s back out here and she has a couple of days to hang out, not just- you know, one or two days, like it has been in the past. She’s here for a full week, we’ve been doing everything. We went- we hiked up to the Hollywood sign, we’ve gone golfing twice, we went to the beach in Malibu and it’s been a heat wave here in L.A. and I live in the valley, so it’s crazy hot, it’s been like a 105 Degrees. We’ve been golfing 18 holes, hiking out in the sun, I’ve been exhausted, but it’s been amazing. It’s been great hanging with mom.
Always nice to have her and just- well, I do gotta say though- put up a couple of pictures of my mom and I hanging out – I’ve lost like 20 Instagram followers, after posting pictures of me and my mom. What, you just want selfies or something? Y’all some coldhearted motherfuckers for that one. No, but it is funny, it’s funny to see what people respond to on Instagram. I unfollow people all the time, it’s funny the idea that people are like, looking at my feed and are like “Oh my God, enough with the love for your mother, oooh. I can’t see this anymore, gotta unfollow this guy”. “It reminds me of my own failed relationship with my mom”. It always hurt to see your followers go. I try to not even look at that, to tell you the truth but when you see 20 people go, hard not to notice. I guess it’s hard not to notice when you only have 5000 followers, maybe if I had a million I wouldn’t care. But maybe to get a million followers, I need to stop hanging with my mom so much, who knows? [laughing] Is that a sacrifice I’m willing to make? Only time will tell.
She’s in the living room beside me right now, maybe I’ll go call her and tell her to get the hell out of my house. It’s time for me to start thinking about my Instagram following. Nah, I could never do that. She’s uh- watching “The Astronaut’s Wife” in the living room right now. She’s never seen it before, I’ve never seen it. I got a basic idea of the plot, though. It’s very interesting to see Johnny Depp’s face again and I forgot how he looked like before he covered himself in makeup and scarves for every single movie. Good to see you, Johnny Depp. I assume you’re listening to this podcast.
We’ve watched “Gangs of New York” last night. Man, what a great movie. I haven’t seen it since I saw in theaters when I was like 16 or something, and uh- now I have closed captions, so I was always like “Uh, I don’t know if I like that movie” but the truth is I was just missing so much. I’m realizing now about a lot a movies now, movies that I’m like “Uuh, that was boring, I didn’t like it”, the truth is I was just missing too much because I didn’t have closed captions so when I go back and watch some now, I’m like “Wow, this movie is amazing”. “The Prestige”, Christopher Nolan, Christian Bale, Howard Jackman- Howard Jackman? Hugh Jackman. Scarlett Johansson, I just watched that, I saw like the first half hour when it first came out, like nine years ago and I was like “Uh, this movie is
boring” but it’s cause I didn’t hearing everything they were saying. Now I watched it, holy shit – this is one of the greatest movies I’ve ever seen in my life. Man, what a great movie. Same with the “Gangs of New York”, man. Love a good movie.
Okay, let’s get into it soon. Let’s get into it right now. As much as I love talking to you, we have a great, great conversation up ahead, um- with the very hilarious woman, Nina Tarr, great comedian here in L.A., um- as always, this episode is captioned. Every episode will now be captioned and the captions are provided by “hearinglikeme.com”, which is website that provides the latest news, lifestyle and text stories written for and by people with hearing loss or affected by hearing loss. I’ve written a couple of articles for them and uh- I work closely with them and they are very, very nice for providing the captions here on “Definitely D.J”. So, check out “hearinglikeme.com” and once again thank you so much to “Hearing Like Me” for providing the captions. Um- the transcriptions right now are taking a little bit too long, like four or five days after the episode comes out. I don’t wanna make my hard-of-hearing fans out there- I don’t like the word “fans”, my hard-of-hearing friends who happen to be listening to the podcast- I know you don’t like to wait four or five days for the captions, so I’m working on that right now, I’d like to have them on like a one day turnaround maximum. Ironically, the transcriber will be listening to this episode and is hearing me complain about how long it’s taken, so [laughing] maybe that will spur her into action. Not trying to be rude, um- you’re doing a great job, not gonna say her name, but you’re doing a great job, but um- I’d like it a little bit quicker.
I think this is how capitalism works. I complain and then changes happen, I don’t know. I think so, I think that’s the invisible hand, Adam Smith, I think that what’s all about, complaining on podcast.
Okay, so that’s one more time, “hearinglikeme.com” provides the caption and I couldn’t be more appreciative. Once again, I mentioned this last week but big tour coming up, the “Here to Hear Tour”, that’s “H-E-R-E-T-O-H-E-A-R tour”, “heretoheartour.com”, I got that up on my Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, uh- it’s official, we’re so close. October 1st, the tour will be starting and – wow, it’s going to be amazing. Uh, we’ve got pretty much all planned out. Uh- there’s maybe a little bit left, few dates that are open right now for the month of October, so maybe- maybe you wanna call me and tell me why you think I should come to your city. I got a phone number – 818-659-60-21. 818-659-60-21, let me know if you think the “Here to Hear Tour” should come to your city and let me know why you think this. I’d love to come to your city, you don’t even have to tell me why, I wanna come to your city. If you’re excited enough to call me and tell me I should come, I wanna come. But call me anyway – 818-659-60-21.
Okay, let’s get into it, everybody. She is a disc jockey, a D.J., not a fake one like me, a real disk jockey, a comedian and a self-proclaimed cinephile. That’s a lover of movies. But she is most certainly not a douchebag, she made that very clear. And I can attest to that, she is very kind, very sweet, very funny as well- um, I really loved watching her on stage. You guys are gonna love our chat, please give it up for the lovely, the hilarious – Nina Tarr.
Nina Tarr: Good speaking voice, ok, I should be like a radio personality I feel like.
D.J. Demers: You should.
Nina Tarr: I don't know. I mean, I would. Oh sorry, can I put my sunglasses on? Because sun is-
D.J. Demers: Oh, yeah, the sun is shining directly on your eyes. You do look super cool, you do look like an old Hollywood star.
Nina Tarr: Really?
D.J. Demers: Don’t you have a joke about that?
Nina Tarr: Oh, classic beauty.
D.J Demrs: Classic beauty!
Nina Tarr: Yeah, classic beauty. I don't know. I feel like- I didn't feel that way though. I felt it looked kind of weird. I got weird teeth.
D.J. Demers: You got weird teeth?
Nina Tarr: I have a huge gap in my teeth, you wanna hear- this is a fun fact about how weird my teeth are. These two teeth, I have big teeth. Those are still baby teeth. I don't have any adult teeth behind them so when you don't have adult teeth like pushing out your baby teeth, you just keep your baby teeth. So, these two are still baby teeth.
D.J. Demers: The two beside your-
Nina Tarr: My two front teeth, yeah that's why are so little.
D.J. Demers: They don't look that little.
Nina Tarr: But isn't it weird that you could just as adult have baby teeth.
D.J. Demers: So every other tooth in your mouth was a second generation tooth, an adult tooth, except for those two?
Nina Tarr: Yeah.
D.J. Demers: Wow. Why that happened, do they have any?-
Nina Tarr: Might- I don't know. This is also super weird. Okay, so my grandmother cause I was like- OK. In like- in dentistry like, that's kind of rare. That's like not that many people have that, but it is like, you're like “Oh yeah,
that happen to some people”. Weirdly my grandmother, she's like “Oh it's genetic”. No, no, no, no, no, my dad's adopted, but it's my adoptive mother's grandma, my adopted grandmother- she has the same exact thing.
D.J. Demers: But you're not genetically related to her?
Nina Tarr: Not at all.
D.J. Demers: Wow.
Nina Tarr: [laughing] Isn’t that weird?
D.J. Demers: That’s really weird, for such an uncommon occurrence.
Nina Tarr: Yeah, it's like one in like, I don't know- a few hundred people, like still keep their baby teeth and it just happens that the woman that adopted my father has the same thing, with the same exact teeth.
D.J. Demers: She knew it as soon as she saw it.
Nina Tarr: [whispering] So weird.
D.J. Demers: She's like Professor Xavier, just recruit all the other baby teeth people.
Nina Tarr: What is weird is like she adopted my dad who looks a lot like my grandparents but they're not related, and then adopted two other children and they all look alike but they're none of them are related.
D.J. Demers: Really?
Nina Tarr: Isn’t that weird as fuck?
D.J. Demers: Maybe it's like how owners, this is a horrible analogy but when you get a dog and the dog starts to look like the owner over time? Maybe that happens with humans as well.
Nina Tarr: I think. Oh, wow that's actually- I think that could be potentially scientifically sound. I mean like, when you think about like- OK, we're like, you know this- sorry I'm like kind of going to nerd out really quickly but so in genetics, the most like popular kind of, I don't know, the form of- OK. [laughing] Genetics basically is nothing that you like your spawn is only a reflection of your, uh- your genes and your DNA and your chromosomes and that's it. That's like, that's what it is. So
nothing that you do in your life should ever affect your spawn ever. That just does- and like you can't have reverberations of like, your ancestors behavior, get into genetically. Just their genes, you know, so alcoholism-
D.J. Demers: Genes determine behavior to an extent, right?
Nina Tarr: Sometimes but this is really interesting. So that's just been like that belief in genetics for forever. Like since the development of it and in the last few years, there is new like scientific findings that the things that you do in your life actually do affect your spot and I mean like choices you make, decisions, stuff like that, on a molecular level.
D.J. Demers: That haven't been born yet, you mean your future-
Nina Tarr: Yes. Yeah.
D.J. Demers: On a molecular level.
Nina Tarr: On a molecular level, it actually changes your DN- your DNA can change over time which is not something that geneticists like thought at all.
D.J. Demers: That’s a new theory.
Nina Tarr: Yes, isn’t that fucking crazy?
D.J. Demers: So you, like you party hard for three years, changes your brain in whatever way and it’s not going to get past to your kids.
Nina Tarr: Yes, yes.
D.J. Demers: OK.
Nina Tarr: It's like, but the was never- that’s like going completely against what geneticists thought prior, you know, which is- and say I only know it cause my mom has a like Ph.D. in genetics so.
D.J. Demers: Wow. So your nature versus nurture there isn't an entirely black and white conversation.
Nina Tarr: No, it's a little bit of both. And like in psychology they always say that but I'm talking about hard core gen- like you actually like physically seeing difference and like numbers, and like your cells changing as opposed to like more sociological or psychological, like “Oh, will this behavior be translated?”. It's, yeah- it's really crazy.
D.J. Demers: On a molecular level.
Nina Tarr: I'm sorry if I’ve given a sloppy paraphrase of a really brilliant scientific finding, I just some not- I might not get it talking about science, I realize I'm so fascinated by it-
D.J. Demers: I think you are great, I'm just a regular old layman. I don't know much about science and I think you explained that very well. By the way, that water is for you.
Nina Tarr: That’s what I thought, I've already been drinking it.
D.J. Demers: Oh okay, it's not your water, I lied. Stop drinking my water. Your mom? What did you say uh- your mom has?
Nina Tarr: She's, she's a scientist. Oh wait, what did she have? Oh, a Ph.D. in genetics.
D.J. Demers: Ph.D. in genetics! Wow, so that's pretty cool. So you learned a lot about that at a young age, did she-
Nina Tarr: No, I'm like so horrifically dumb at math and science, like it’s embarrassing. I count on my fingers.
D.J. Demers: Your mom didn't pass that gene down to you?
Nina Tarr: No. Well my dad, my dad's really into uh- my dad’s not like a science buff or mathematics- he's like, he's so genius in terms of like writing and memorization of historical facts, he's and really into politics and he read all the time. He's a soft science kind of guy. Not like, you know, biology or chemist or anything like that. So yeah, I definitely got that from my dad because I'm fucking horrible at math and science. Science fascinates me but like there's so much of it that I'm like-
D.J. Demers: “Wait wait, what”?
Nina Tarr: It takes so long for me to understand elements of science that I'm like, it's embarrassing, like it’s bad and I can't do math for shit.
D.J. Demers: Me neither.
Nina Tarr: It's bad. [laughing]
D.J. Demers: Simple math question, I’m like “Oh shit”.
Nina Tarr: I can't, man.
D.J. Demers: I always enjoyed math but I wasn't a natural at it. You know those guys or girls you meet who are just like, they don't even use a formula, they're like “Well of course, X equals 87 to the 90”, you’re “Huh?!”
Nina Tarr: I don't understand and that like fascinates me, like people that are- I don't know, I think there is power in both mental capacities, you know. It's good to have like a very logical driven, like numbers based brain but then it's also good to have a- it's important to have the other because it makes you better at socializing. Like I feel like so many- I don't know, like my mom's whole feel like those like doctors and scientists and nurses they all like, they all look at the world in such a different way as opposed to, you know- not a different way but just in a very helpful way. I mean “Fuck”, they’re saving people's lives, I’m like “All right dick jokes”, talking about how I'm a slut on stage and I think it's not- you know it’s not that great, I don't know.
D.J. Demers: Wow, they both provide different value to society.
Nina Tarr: [whispering] Absolutely.
D.J. Demers: I'm saying that as a person who has said the exact same opinion you just shared and then somebody else has told me what I just said to you. I think it's important. I'm not saying comedians are as important as geneticists.
Nina Tarr: I think definitely not.
D.J. Demers: No, 100 percent not, but we're not unimportant.
Nina Tarr: Yeah. I think whatever anybody decides to do is important.
D.J. Demers: Yeah, I think anybody who put passion into whatever they're doing is import- like somebody who makes a decision and says “This is what I am”, you know what I mean. I guess even if you choose to do nothing. I come from a long line of people doing nothing as well.
Nina Tarr: Really?
D.J. Demers: Yeah, uh- people, you know-
Nina Tarr: Isn't there something like kind of beautifully profound though about
somebody who just has like a really menial job and then just likes to like educate themselves on like, I don't know if you know anybody like that and it's- they're just really, they're like “Oh yeah, I read all the time” but they're like- there's this guy who's a friend of a friend who was a dishwasher and he was just suit and he would just like listen to like lectures and podcast while he's washing dishes. Then when he go home, he would like immerse himself and like really hard core like Kierkegaard philosophy books. And I just wanted to be like- my dad's kind of like that actually, my dad works at a grocery store. But he's brilliant. He like-
D.J. Demers: Your dad works at a grocery store?
Nina Tarr: Yeah, he just works at a grocery store.
D.J. Demers: Really?
Nina Tarr: He’s like a pretty simple guy.
D.J. Demers: Not just works at a grocery store.
Nina Tarr: I mean he does just works at a grocery store, for like, whatever he does for a living. But he like, always is watching like subversive foreign films and he’s reading countless amounts of like intensive literature and like-
D.J. Demers: At work?
Nina Tarr: No, like on his- [laughing]
D.J. Demers: I’m just kidding. “Come on, Frank, come on, we need you backs- put down the literature man, you’re working”.
Nina Tarr: How did you know my dad’s name was Frank? It’s not. My dad has like a bro name. He’s Brad.
D.J. Demers: Brad?
Nina Tarr: [laughing] Just bro-ie, Brad-
D.J. Demers: His name is Brad?
Nina Tarr: Yeah.
D.J. Demers: Brad. That's a very interesting dynamic, that your dad works at a grocery store and your mom is a genetic- geneticist, is that what she
Nina Tarr: She is a lab director now which is like, she got her MBA as well so she's like a masters in business. And she's- she's so smart.
D.J. Demers: What’s that dynamic like, your parents?
Nina Tarr: Oh they don't- they don’t hang out anymore.
D.J. Demers: Are they divorced?
Nina Tarr: Yeah.
D.J. Demers: Oh, okay.
Nina Tarr: That’s like, I feel like that's common. Anytime I meet somebody and their parents are together, that is way more fascinating.
D.J. Demers: That’s so funny, the way you reacted. You're right, you were like “They're not together, why”-
Nina Tarr: “What are you fucking talking about?”
D.J. Demers: Yeah, my parents are divorced too, so-
Nina Tarr: Whose parents aren't? If your parents aren't divorced, I'm like very suspec- I'm like “What?”. It like freaks me out.
D.J. Demers: “So like, what’s their thin- why they are still together?”
Nina Tarr: Yeah, oh yeah. There’s this great joke. Oh fuck, I wish I knew the comedian. This is great joke a comedian does like- “Yeah, I don't know. I don't really want to get married because you know 60 percent of marriages end up lasting forever” [laughing] It’s like-
D.J. Demers: Yeah.
Nina Tarr: Yeah, no, no, no. Well, actually it's tru- it’s the opposite. I think the marriage, the divorce rate is like 65 percent or something like that, in the US.
D.J. Demers: Yeah, I mean that wouldn't surprise me.
Nina Tarr: Not at all.
D.J. Demers: But it’s so funny because our parliament is still like “Yeah, marriage is still a cool thing to do”.
Nina Tarr: I think it's still cool but like, I'm totally down to get married but I'm also like fine to get a divorce. Yeah, I think it's a fun like human thing to do. The thing like having a kid seems cool cause it's like uh- what an amazing cool thing to do as a human being, that we have the capability to like make a child and that's- I want to do that. That’s undeniably cool human experience.
D.J. Demers: Exactly, yeah. That will drastically affect the rest of your human experience. It’s not like going to blind eating in Costa Rica. You're like- now your whole existence has changed forever. So it is really cool and I have been thinking about it lately, as a 31 year old man. I see a little kid in the park, I’m like “It would be fun to be a dad”. Yeah, I've got four nieces and nephew. But then I think of the other side of it where I'm like “Well”- I mean not that you have to put your dreams on hold or anything but it's like priorities are different now, man. Everything is for this little kid.
Nina Tarr: Oh yeah, so different.
D.J. Demers: Which is fine, I know it's a beautiful thing but I don't know if I'm ready for it.
Nina Tarr: Oh, you're definitely not ready. [laughing] I mean I'm not saying like “Fuck you, you're not ready” but like you- no, no, no, not like, “Uh, I don’t know dude, you're not ready”. No, I mean that in like, there is no- I don't know. I'm 27. I like probably won't have a kid for like 10 years, which is great, like I think a lot will change. I mean, I'd like to have a child, I don’t fucking know, the world's falling apart-
D.J. Demers: You couldn't live your life right now, that's for sure.
Nina Tarr: Oh I don't like, I would not- like hell no.
D.J. Demers: You got like the coolish lif- you're a DJ and a comedian.
Nina Tarr: I know, I sound like such a douchebag though, right?
D.J. Demers: I wouldn't even say douchebag, it sounds like you livin’ the L.A. dream.
Nina Tarr: On paper, I'm a douchebag, in person, not a douchebag.
D.J. Demers: That’s something a douchebag would say. [laughing]
Nina Tarr: God damn it! You fanned me out.
D.J. Demers: No, you're not a douchebag, of course and I don’t think it’s douche-y, it’s cool.
Nina Tarr: Somebody told me like if I didn't meet up this person, somebody said “You know, you got me a friend. You know she's great DJ and a comedian”, you'd be like “She's definitely bad in one of those stuff”. “I don't know which one it is but she’s”-
D.J. Demers: That is 100% right.
Nina Tarr: But she's bad at one of those, like for real. But what people don't understand is that, like-
D.J. Demers: But you were a great DJ when I saw you perform.
Nina Tarr: Oh. [laughing] Wow. Wow. Okay, okay.
D.J. Demers: Yeah, you're right, that might be my initial response.
Nina Tarr: And then like when people see me DJ, “I think she's pretty good”. I guess I'm like I'm good- I'm pretty good at both of those things.
D.J. Demers: Of course you do, you do them both on the regular?
Nina Tarr: I'm bad at a lot of other things about math and science. Sports are some concepts like I don’t understand.
D.J. Demers: What you do provide way more value - a comedian and the DJ?
Nina Tarr: I guess, I guess so. Yes, sports to me is like math. I'm like “No”.
D.J. Demers: You can't do sports?
Nina Tarr: Oh man no, I don't give a fuck.
D.J. Demers: I am such a big jock. I realize that, like I say-
Nina Tarr: I saw the sandals out the door and the shorts, so sartorially-
D.J. Demers: Is that a jock thing?
Nina Tarr: Yeah, dude.
D.J. Demers: Yeah.
Nina Tarr: Yeah man, the world doesn't want to see your toes but jocks are like “I don’t know, they’re comfortable”.
D.J. Demers: I'm not wearing those sandals out on a regular basis.
Nina Tarr: Yeah, you better not. Beach and pool only. Sorry [laughing]
D.J. Demers: I'm going to go put those sandals on right now and teach you some tolerance- [laughing]
Nina Tarr: Like in a Jack Johnson song.
D.J. Demers: Oh God, I love Jack Johnson.
Nina Tarr: I knew you would. I fucking knew it.
D.J. Demers: I'm proud of it.
Nina Tarr: Oh my God, I knew it.
D.J. Demers: I'm not going to tone down my affection for Jack Johnson, because the other day somebody told me they didn't like “La La Land”. A few guys did and I was like- I loved it and-
Nina Tarr: Oh my God.
D.J. Demers: And then I didn't speak out. And now I'm going to speak out even when I'm embarrassed to say it – I like Jack Johnson.
Nina Tarr: And “La La Land”.
D.J. Demers: You hate it too?
Nina Tarr: I don't hate it, at all. I think it was really- I thought it was a great movie actually. I just don't think that, it got a lot of hype. I think more so than-
D.J. Demers: I just watched it last week and came into it not knowing if I'd like it, so I wouldn't like “This is going to be amazing”. And then…
Nina Tarr: I thought it was beautiful and like all the actors are great. And the dancing is amazing and the cinematography was great. Like it was, it
was all like really good. But my only thing is that I'm like such a cinephile that I'm like, they just ripped so- all the movies from like the 1940s and like- have you seen “Umbrellas of Cherbourg”?
D.J. Demers: No, of course not.
Nina Tarr: It's a French film, it’s a French film from the 50’s and it's almost directly taken from that.
D.J. Demers: And they gave no credit!
Nina Tarr: Yeah. Well, you don't really think, I think it's inspired by- and I hope but there's a lot of like, okay- there is so much of that like, you know Gene Kelly era and you know, a Ginger Rogers and like Fred Astaire and like “Singing in the rain”- they're pulling from all that and the classics did it better, the funny faces really similar to that movie with an Audrey Hepburn movie. It's classic like these are all huge films like studio films like the you know 40’s and 50’s and early 60’s and they just kind of like ripped that entire thing, which is fun, it's like a throwback but I'm like “But I got to say - the other ones did it better”.
D.J. Demers: And that’s a whole different thing.
Nina Tarr: You know I think they just the all these movies like, I think they are better than “La La Land”, like really. I don’t think they just were like “Well we made a good one”. It's like “Eh, there's better ones”, I don't know.
D.J. Demers: It's the only one of its k- excuse me, kind right now, like the hot director to the biggest stars. Uh, two things – one, you're a comedian D.J. and cinephile, if you're on out a thir-
Nina Tarr: You know, I just like films-
D.J. Demers: That’s really cool.
Nina Tarr: I educate myself. I watch a lot of like, yeah watch a lot weird- dude you what I saw the other day? So fucking good.
D.J. Demers: What?
Nina Tarr: Uh, “Good Time”. You heard of it?
D.J. Demers: Oh, with Robert Pattinson?
Nina Tarr: So good.
D.J. Demers: I really want to see that, is it Patterson or Pattinson?
Nina Tarr: Pattinson, yeah, yeah. It's so incredible.
D.J. Demers: I heard his transformation in like he's, he's made so many smart decisions since “Twilight” been- not necessarily needing to be the leading man do him weird things.
Nina Tarr: Yeah. No, he did so well and the movie is written so, so it's great. It's so good.
D.J. Demers: Cool.
Nina Tarr: I'm not really into like, I'm not a huge like action film fan. It’s a heist movie, so it’s more but- there is, oh man it's great. It's a very well. Actually you know what, I do like heist movies like Scorsese is one of my favorite directors. I love like every Scorsese film. It's just like-
D.J. Demers: You like “The Departed”?
Nina Tarr: I thought, yeah- I only watched it once in theaters though, I would have to revisit. I'm really into like “Goodfellas”. I think “Goodfellas” is like one of my top five favorite movies.
D.J. Demers: Love “Goodfellas”, it’s so perfect.
Nina Tarr: So perfect. There are certain scenes in it that I'm just like, these are perfect scenes, like-
D.J. Demers: Like when he beats the guy up across the- is that where you were going to say?
Nina Tarr: Oh my God, OK. So not only that. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. That is such a great scene. But I love what happens right after, when he goes-
D.J. Demers: Turn on
Nina Tarr: You know what, this is literally my favorite line of the whole movie. I cannot believe cause I say and people are like “Oh, I didn't really remember”, like dude, when he hands in the gun, she’s like: “If other girls got handed a gun, they will walk away right now, right then. But I gotta, I gotta say – it made me [laughing] it turned me on. I gotta admit – it turned me on”.
D.J. Demers: Yeah. Nice accent. Yeah, when he marches across the street-
Nina Tarr: And he beats them with a-
D.J. Demers: And the other friend is just like “Whoa, whoa”.
Nina Tarr: So amazing.
D.J. Demers: And the walkthrough in the back of the restaurant-
Nina Tarr: I was just gonna- D.J., what is happening? I literally gonna say the next one, that’s my second- I am not kidding, I am not fucking with you. The next scene that’s perfect is when he takes care behind the Italian restaurant. And as you know, it's like he enters down a staircase and then he's talking about how “She had eyes like Bette Davis. At least as well I thought”. [laughing]
D.J. Demers: Oh, man. OK, so we're going to play a fun game here. I'm going to say my next favorite scene in the movie. But I want you to somehow not listen to it, so our viewers will know cause then you're going to say your next favorite scene-
Nina Tarr: Oh fuck, I have to think about it. Okay.
D.J. Demers: Okay. So, how are we going to do that, so you don't hear what I say?
Nina Tarr: Why don't I just go into the other room?
D.J. Demers: OK, come back in 5 seconds.
Nina Tarr: And then I have to think about- wait, how many?
D.J. Demers: Okay, come back in 10 seconds.
Nina Tarr: Well, just yell for me.
D.J. Demers: Oh yeah, of course. [laughing] Okay, so my next favorite scene from “Goodfellas” that pops up in my brain is when De Niro and her are on the street, he’s like “Hey, I want to come talk to you for a second” and she's so scared and she runs away. I think he says he has a coat for her or something and she's so scared cause she thinks he might whack her. OK.
Nina Tarr: You ready?
D.J. Demers: Yeah, come on in. Okay. Listeners, Nina, tell everybody what your next scene that comes to mind is?
Nina Tarr: This is like a really micro's scene, it's more of like a moment that happens-
D.J. Demers: Mmm, okay.
Nina Tarr: When they're in jail and they're like cooking Italian food in jail, and he says- Oh fuck, I don’t know the actually, this is- can I say two?
D.J. Demers: Sure.
Nina Tarr: Okay. Cause this is- well I really just like when Paulie is shaving the garlic with like a razor blade and he's like shaved it so finely that it would melt like butter in the pan. I don’t know, there is something, I don't know why. It's a moment that happens but I would have to say-
D.J. Demers: I got hungry just hearing that-
Nina Tarr: I know, I know.
D.J. Demers: Wow, delicious.
Nina Tarr: I love Italian food. So, the iconic one that's so fucking good is “Get your fucking shine box”, of course.
D.J. Demers: What's that one again?
Nina Tarr: Oh my God, oh my God so- Joe Pesci, he starts his- It’s Christopher Amal Sante, oh no, I say his character name in the “Sopranos”. Okay, what's his name? Christopher Maloney. No, that's a different actor. Never mind, anyway- there's a scene where they're all playing cards like in the basement area and he's like “Oh, yeah? You fucking th-”, and he starts- Joe Pesci is such a gross piece of shit in that movie, starts going off and then he's like “Okay, you know, I said I’m sorry” and then he like kind of like stands up for himself and everybody like feels, like “Oh, you stood up to”, like one of the bosses, you know. And so Joe Pesci gets like, fuck it, he goes crazy, and he’s like “Dance, dance”. He starts shooting his feet and then- yeah. And then he beats the shit out of him.
D.J. Demers: And then he says “Get your fucking shinebox”-
Nina Tarr: “GET YOUR FUCKING SHINEBOX” [laughing] So good.
D.J. Demers: He’s so scary in that.
Nina Tarr: What is yours?
D.J. Demers: It’s okay, it was a fun exercise. We had two in a row. The third one was when De Niro was telling her he has, like a coat for her to come see. He is like “Just around the corner, come here”. And she's like runs away because she thinks he's going to whack her.
Nina Tarr: That’s a pretty good one.
D.J. Demers: I just love the tension because it's like “He's for sure going to kill you now, don’t go”-
Nina Tarr: Oh yeah, I also love the- I also love the commercial in “Goodfellas” of the guy who- the toupee salesman.
D.J. Demers: The toupee salesman.
Nina Tarr: Yeah, you see like his commercial on TV and he like jumps in the water and his toupee doesn't come off, and he's like “Hey”, it’s like really, like a mattress commercial-
D.J. Demers: Wow.
Nina Tarr: Okay. We- we are talking about the “Goodfellas” a lot. There are- just Scorsese is so amazing. And fucking “Good Time” is amazing, it's like really…
D.J. Demers: It’s not Scorsese though.
Nina Tarr: No, it's not Scorsese. It's the Safdie brothers and they're incredible. They like a wrote/direct- there's two brothers, one of them is an actor in the film. The other one directs it and they wrote it together and they also do the soundtrack, the original score for the film and it's amazing.
D.J. Demers: Really?
Nina Tarr: Yeah. The music is great in it.
D.J. Demers: Wow.
Nina Tarr: Yeah, they're super talented.
D.J. Demers: Cool. What’s their name?
Nina Tarr: Safdie Brothers. S-A-F-D-I, think.
D.J. Demers: What’s their background? Did they American?
Nina Tarr: Uh, they are American and- they're from the U.S., but I think they are- it sounds like a Persian last name or like a Greek last name.
D.J. Demers: You’re Persian, right?
Nina Tarr: I’m Persian, yeah. I know. Whenever I like, see a name I know exactly it's like “Oh, that's an Iranian name”. That one sounds like it could be Armenian, It could be like uh- Kurdish. There's so many countries that kind of use- just like Arabic, you know is like- there's a lot of similar like names and sounds and everything cause it's all in the same alphabet, you know.
D.J. Demers: The Safdie brothers. You know, you brought up a point earlier about how “La La Land” just kind of ripped off those old Gene Kelly era movies. Well, I've been thinking about how, that’s just the norm. Like, we- as you get older, you just realize people- like it's 15 year olds that are buying shit, so you can just repurpose something from your youth and sell it again, and nobody gives a shit.
Nina Tarr: Nobody cares about originality.
D.J. Demers: And nobody does. And for some people, they don't even realize it's not original because why would a 15 year old kid, or let's be honest a 31 year old man like me who's not necessarily a cinephile, care that “La La Land” ripped off a movie from the 50’s?
Nina Tarr: And people don't have to care. It’s just like, I say-
D.J. Demers: I am not saying that I don't care, by the way. I just I didn't really know, so I think-
Nina Tarr: Yeah. Yeah, I think that like, I don’t know. I mean, it's obviously they took that format and they made it new and digestible to, like new audiences and brought something back. That like, was dormant after all these years, which is really cool.
D.J. Demers: Yeah.
Nina Tarr: And like to be real, like I don't think that there are that many original ideas. What I'm saying and what I'm challenging is “Do it better, do it”- you know if you're going to rip something off, do it better.
D.J. Demers: Yeah.
Nina Tarr: Just like- or not even rip something, I don't even like to say that cause I feel like- there's honestly is like, I don't think there's a finite amount of ideas but like, I don't mind when people like, you know- what are new genres of music? Like I think the only, I was really think about this the other day- I think the newest most un- like has never been replicated before is like the kind of trip hop rap, you know. I call it like coding rap.
D.J. Demers: Mhm.
Nina Tarr: You know, where they’re like “Down, down, down”-
D.J. Demers: Yeah. [laughing]
Nina Tarr: Just really like slowed down hip-hop. You know, that's like pretty big right now.
D.J. Demers: Yeah, it’s really big right now.
Nina Tarr: And prior to that, like what is –that is super original. That's like so origin- I can't think of anything.
D.J. Demers: I was reading an article about how the average beats per minute on, like Top 40 radio right now, has gone down like 50 beats per minute, like it used to be the standard that it was like, I don't know the exact number but 150-
Nina Tarr: That's like really high, I would say probably like 120 or something like 130-
D.J. Demers: And now they are like 90? You’re paying attention on these things as a DJ, I imagine.
Nina Tarr: I think I just noticed the pattern a little bit or- I don't know, yeah I guess so, I don't really listen to that much contemporary music but I really-
D.J. Demers: Yeah, you play like the old like funky- how would you describe all the stuff you're like playin- you’re like playing really cool shit, like if you
were like the lead in a movie, who is supposed to be really cool, she'd be like “Oh, you gotta listen to this”. You know, B-side from the “The Pogues” and “1972”. [laughing]
Nina Tarr: I like to play a lot of like, funk and soul. It depends on what night I'm doing, so I have so many different records. I like playing funk and soul and boogie. I love playing disco and I love playing New Wave and like post-punk, like super 80’s, like fun pop and I love playing, like glam and like-
D.J. Demers: What’s that like Bowie?
Nina Tarr: Bowie, T-Rex, um- sometimes Donovan’s songs.
D.J. Demers: Donovan is glam?
Nina Tarr: There's some of his songs, I would just say like- oh my God, what’s that album that goes- oh my God, I can’t pronounce that, “Bacaregachuvi” or something like that. But he has some kind of like higher tempo like fast songs that are like kind of funky. But, yeah I guess it's not super funky but I don't know. Anyway I digress. I like-
D.J. Demers: Is it not all podcast is? Constant digressions?
Nina Tarr: I digress. I love old school hip-hop. I love like 80’s and 90’s hip-hop and rap. I play a lot of different shit. I play like of like old school, like rock and roll music sometimes from like the 50’s and 60’s. So it's just like depends. But um- yeah, I don't know. I like- in terms of new music, in terms of contemporary music, I'm not like phobic of it at all. I like a lot of new music. But what I'm more impressed with right now, which is a genre that I'm not- I'm like into a lot of different genres as you can see. But I think like new rap right now is like punk music. It's like coming at like this really, like Kendrick Lamar is so incredible, he goes like- all of this new like hip-hop and rap is like where it's out right now. I think I'm not really impressed by anything else- like rock music now sucks, like dance music and I don't know. It doesn’t suck, there’s some good shit. I like, I'm very like- I don't like being negative about like newness of stuff.
D.J. Demers: I agree 100%.
Nina Tarr: I hate when people-
D.J. Demers: I was talking to a guy in the green room at a show in San Diego a couple of nights ago and he was like “Yeah I just put on this” like “this new stuff sucks, I just put on my Neil Young and my Wilco”-
Nina Tarr: Oh God.
D.J. Demers: And listen, I love Neil Young and I love Wilco and I was like- just thinking about what he said as a concept for a joke. But my thing was I'm fighting it. I wanted to tell him but I'm a pussy so I didn't, but I wanted to be like “Don't brag about that, you're bragging about closing your mind to the world”.
Nina Tarr: I know. And also like you're just, you're not listening, man. I hate when people are like super negative like “Dude Falcon, no new movies are good, you know, like fucking music sucks now, like art sucks now”. It's like “No, it doesn't”. There's so much amazing shit and also like-
D.J. Demers: Like Jack Johnson. [laughing]
Nina Tarr: [retching] Just dry heave.
D.J. Demers: Oh my God, I love him. How can you- why do you dislike- by the way I like a lot of cool stuff.
Nina Tarr: I get it, it's all good. We all have like- I bet you like “Red Hot Chili Peppers”.
D.J. Demers: I did back in the day. I'm a white dude and my early-
Nina Tarr: And “Dave Matthews Band” too.
D.J. Demers: Oh God, I love Dave Mathews. [laughing] I have a new joke I'm working on about how-
Nina Tarr: I can nail- see how good I am at this?
D.J. Demers: I've been doing a new joke about how people always want to know how I lost my hearing and I'm like “You know, you follow “The Dave Matthews Band” around for four summers in a row, you're going to lose a bit of hearing”.
Nina Tarr: Oh my God!
D.J. Demers: And I'm not getting that big of a laugh but I really love the idea that I'm going to be deaf from too much Dave Mathews.
Nina Tarr: I think that, what would be funny- that's really funny but what, if I may suggest something-
D.J. Demers: Oh come on, play it on me.
Nina Tarr: You gotta really- cause I think people hear it and it's really funny but they're not thinking that the music is so bad it’s deafening you, they actually are probably legitimately- cause people get- my ex-boyfriend got like gnarly tinnitus as from watching “Hot Chip” and he just had tinnitus for the rest of his life because of one fucking loud show. So it sucks but-
D.J. Demers: But I hear “Hot chip” create life.
Nina Tarr: [laughing] Yea, they're really loud. He didn't wear earplugs.
D.J. Demers: I went to so many concerts back in the day, I have such bad tinnitus. So dumb, I was already hard-of-hearing, why would I do that?
Nina Tarr: Yeah but you have to like- I think the joke of Dave Mathews is, you got to play upon the fact that like the music was so bad that it deafened you- I don't know how to play-
D.J. Demers: I could never really speak ill of Dave Matthews. [laughing]
Nina Tarr: Oh my God.
D.J. Demers: Hey, what else, uh- you pegged me good with Jack Johnson, The Chili Peppers, Dave Matthews. What else are you seeing?
Nina Tarr: Back in the day, you liked “Matchbox 20”.
D.J. Demers: Oh my God. You don’t have to say back in the day. That was unnecessary. [singing]
Nina Tarr: [laughing] And Third Eye Blind.
D.J. Demers: Yeah, 100 percent.
Nina Tarr: I know, I'm really good at this. I can look at people and pretty much determin- I'm like fucking psychic, with only that which is not-
D.J. Demers: Just music?
Nina Tarr: Yeah, cause I-
D.J. Demers: Give me one, let’s see if you can go 100 percent. So far you've gotten
Dave Matthews, Red Hot Chili Peppers, who did you just say?
Nina Tarr: I said Third Eye Blind.
D.J. Demers: Third Eye Blind. I gave you Jack Johnson and then you went from there.
Nina Tarr: No, I feel like I gave you Jack Johnson, initially.
D.J Demers: Oh, you did it man.
Nina Tarr: I don't know. I did it cause it was with the sandals, yeah. The sandals are definitely the tell. Okay let me think, actually-
D.J. Demers: Why do I feel shame? I thought I liked who I am. [laughing]
Nina Tarr: [laughing] Don’t feel shame- I'm a bitch. I'm like such a snob.
D.J. Demers: You’re not a bitch. And I feel no shame. I’ve had so many happy nights in my sandals, listening to Jack and Dave and the boys, I'll never feel bad about it.
Nina Tarr: Oh, Foo Fighters.
D.J. Demers: Oh, yeah.
Nina Tarr: [laughing] Yes.
D.J. Demers: Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%.
Nina Tarr: Oh God. The more as we talk, I’ll say them. But I knew- I knew it. God, I am really good at this.
D.J. Demers: But you’re only saying the embarrassing ones. You haven’t mentioned-
Nina Tarr: Queens of the Stone Age?
D.J. Demers: I love Queens of the Stone Age. Why now? Are they like, the gateway drug into-
Nina Tarr: No, not at all. The gateway drug is probably Matchbox. Or no, it’s probably like-
D.J. Demers: No, Matchbox ain’t taking me anywhere but-
Nina Tarr: Good vibes. “Matchbox just taking me to Good Vibe Island”.
D.J. Demers: Love me some Rob Thomas and the boys.
Nina Tarr: Man, he probably like Hootie & The Blowfish too.
D.J. Demers: I know that one, they only had a couple of hits. I never got into-
Nina Tarr: “I'm not into Hootie & the Blowfish but into Darius Rucker solo”.
D.J. Demers: Of course, more of a country guy. No, but I do greatly enjoy The Bare Naked Ladies.
Nina Tarr: Oh, they’re Canadian.
D.J. Demers: They’re Canadian icons, dare to say. And I do dare to say and it is correct.
Nina Tarr: I think there's so many stronger Canadians.
D.J. Demers: Oh, of course. Well no, not of course. Bare Naked Ladies got a long career in the music business, which is very hard to do and they did it. So, like you were saying you try not to hate on what people like and everything- I try to not hate on anybody doing anything. Especially with how much, not to get all pedantic, but especially with how much negativity is spewing everywhere now. Like I was talking to a comedian last night and she started shitting on a comic. And I just- I just like shut my mouth. Because I'm like trying to literally not do anything negative like-
Nina Tarr: Wow.
D.J. Demers: It's so hard as a comedian to not-
Nina Tarr: No!
D.J. Demers: Well we use- we say negative things sometimes to prove a point. I'm not trying to be perfect, but-
Nina Tarr: I think there's a catharsis in complaining about stuff a little bit. But I also think it's therapeutic. Like I- one of my favorite things to do, it’s just like really fun- I like, I think talking shit is so much fun, like laughing with your friends- it's kind of- I like to do this thing with my friend, she's hilarious and she's just as dark as I am. And we just will like make fun of people, just like on the street with their choices. I
think that's the funniest thing to me. That’s why I like making fun of what people are wearing cause it has nothing to do with like a derivative of, like who they are. It's just a choice that they made to present themselves in a certain way.
D.J. Demers: Yeah.
Nina Tarr: And I think that's really funny.
D.J. Demers: “Uh, look at this stupid hijab”. Like that. [laughing]
Nina Tarr: [laughing] Oh, my God.
D.J. Demers: Oh, you wouldn't go after that. You're going to discriminate what articles of clothing-
Nina Tarr: Oh, definitely. But I think that like just which- oh my God, no I'll make fun of pretty much anything. My, one of my best friends, her and I will also just watch like garb- like just garbage documentaries and like TV and just like Mystery Science 3000, the whole thing and just make fun. I mean, it's so fun to talk shit. It's not hurting anybody, I don't like- I'm very, I'm like the least aggressive person, I'm like very sensitive and so I would never, I never like negative like overwhelmingly or something. We're like talking shit, like it's just fun to make fun of people sometimes or just make fun of things in general. It feels like if it's not hurting anybody, I just feel like there's so much bliss in that, just like joking around with your friends.
D.J. Demers: Yeah, yeah and everybody knows you're not getting to mean spirit or you don't mean anything.
Nina Tarr: I also like, don't really make fun of people directly. I think that's when- when people talk shit on other people that you both know, I’m like “Why?”. That’s so- bummer fucking conversation. What a dumb ass.
D.J. Demers: You’re wasting time.
Nina Tarr: “So well, you know what I like? I don't like when she like- you know she comes in, she's just like “Oh, sorry like I didn't bring anything”. It's like, it's a potluck. You mean like, you're supposed to bring something, you know”, and you just like “Why- this is the worst conversation”.
D.J. Demers: Yeah.
Nina Tarr: I feel like, that is like a derivative of boredom. It's like you have nothing
like grander to talk about. Like I like talking about big shit, man. I don't like talking about this minial- “Well I don't know, like last week”, like people that talk shit about the people are just boring and dumb because don't have anything else to like-
D.J. Demers: Yeah.
Nina Tarr: I don't know, man.
D.J. Demers: I think there's a quote, a famous quote like where like boring or simple people talk about people and whatever- whatever elevated type of person talk about ideas.
Nina Tarr: Yeah.
D.J. Demers: It's a pretentious kind of quote, but I do like that when you meet somebody and right away they are like, are able to get into some more, some bigger concepts-
Nina Tarr: Yeah!
D.J. Demers: As opposed to like “You see this fucking guy over there?”.
Nina Tarr: Yeah, “It’s pretty hot lately, you know? It's kind of weird, you know because before last summer it was”, just like “Oh my God”.
D.J. Demers: “Oh, God please help me”.
Nina Tarr: [laughing] Kill me dude, kill me.
D.J. Demers: Well, you know what's really funny, is I don't know how to start a conversation, but I'd rather say something weird than something routine and normal.
Nina Tarr: Oh yeah, I'd rather definitely draw the line in the sand right then and there of like “All right, this is what I'm, this is- I'm this type of person” and if people are like “Uuhh” and I'm like “Cool, let's not waste time talking about pleasantries of our existence in this city”, it's like so, just too basic for me.
D.J. Demers: And you are from Orange County too, right?
Nina Tarr: Oh, yeah man, that's like the land of the basics.
D.J. Demers: Yeah?
Nina Tarr: That is basic white T-shirt with the- trimmed lawn. Yeah it's a- yeah, it sucks-
D.J. Demers: Jack Johnson’s fans, I imagine?
Nina Tarr: So many, that's why I knew, that's why I knew. I can read these things-
D.J. Demers: Do you think I belong in Orange County?
Nina Tarr: No, no, no, not at all.
D.J. Demers: I mean, if I had money.
Nina Tarr: No, you're a person- no, I don't think you would like it, because I think that you, I think it's for people- you know what? I hate painting white brushes, cause I think there is a lot of great things in Orange County. And there's a lot of cool people that live there, uh- I don't know. The suburbs are kind of whack, that’s all.
D.J. Demers: You shit on them so much in your act.
Nina Tarr: Yeah, because it's funny. Also- I'm not being like funny. This whole podcast I’m not being funny because, I just don't- I feel like sometimes I'm just like want to talk about something like serious and then it doesn't manifest. I mean, it will manifest so much differently on stage but I like, I like love too many things for me to be like a cynical, I'm like not really cynical. I like feign cynicism on stage definitely and I talk mad shit but like, deep down-
D.J. Demers: It doesn't seem- it always seems like you’re having fun more than anything.
Nina Tarr: Oh, absolutely! But yeah, real life based, like face to face, I'm like- I don't know, I'm like whatever choices you wanna fucking make, everyone's good. But I do feel- I don't know, I feel passion about shit. I just feel like I'm literally saying things to convince you that I'm a human being. I'm like “You know, I care about things. And you know sometimes I'm passionate about things”.
D.J. Demers: “I'm just well-adjusted human individual”.
Nina Tarr: So embarrassing when you catch yourself saying like, things are just like “I'm a human”. “Sometimes I’m sad”.
D.J. Demers: I've got to take you into the shop and reprogram you. How were you-
you’re 27, you said?
Nina Tarr: Yeah.
D.J. Demers: How are you so into like, all old classics, uh- why, why did that become your preferred kind of era as a 27 year old?
Nina Tarr: I'm an archivalist DJ.
D.J. Demers: What's the equivalent of- audio, you're an audiophile, is that correct?
Nina Tarr: Yeah, audiophile I guess, cinephile. Yeah, I definitely am. Okay, so growing up, I didn't play any sports or anything like that. I wasn’t really, yeah, I wasn’t into like playing sports or group activities that much. I was an only child so I was by myself like all the time. So I think when that happens instead of like turning outward, I just like really turned inward and I started reading a lot, like this probably started age 13. I read books, I read so many books. Back then Netflix- you would get like a DVD mailed to you, instead of- streaming didn't exist. So then I would always like rent like a Roman Polanski film or like really- you know, 70’s horror films are like, you know- Francis Ford Coppola, any sort of like really intensive heavy, like Fellini and Jodorowsky films, when I was like a teenager, like 15, 16.
D.J. Demers: I know Fellini, who's the other one you said?
Nina Tarr: Alejandro Jodorowsky, who did “Holy Mountain”.
D.J. Demers: Okay.
Ninar Tarr: And “Fando y Lis”.
D.J. Demers: Where is he from?
Nina Tarr: Um- oh my God, this is embarrassing.
D.J. Demers: Or what era?
Nina Tarr: Oh, it was from the 70’s. Actually, fun fact – he directed this movie- oh, it’s not “Fando y Lis”, I can’t even remember. One of his first films that he directed. The Beatles watched- this is in the early or late 60’s, the Beatles watched it. Loved it so much that they actually- they gave him most of the money to make this other film called “The Holy Mountain” which is like his most famous film. And it's this really high budget psychedelic insanity. I mean, it's amazing, it's beautiful, it’s
visually stunning in every way. But yeah, I don't know, I think when I was, when I was a teenager I just like- I researched music a lot. I read a lot about music, I like watched a lot of movies, I read a lot of books, I liked it- I don't know, I didn't care about school, I thought school was stupid as shit. I like-
D.J. Demers: Really?
Nina Tarr: Oh yeah and I smoke- I was such a bad kid. I did so many drugs and just like- but I would like educate myself- I was just such a snob I was like “Fuck school, I am educating myself”, I like reading like Oscar Wilde and like, you know Socrates and like I'm like “Fuck”- I don't know. That’s why I think I know a bunch of shit as a young lady because I just, I don't know. I would stay home a lot and read about stuff and watch stuff. So um- yeah, that's why. [laughing]
D.J. Demers: Cool.
Nina Tarr: Which is kinda- I mean, I don't know. I wish I played sports, I didn't do shit. I had no extracurricular activities. My parents like did not make me do anything.
D.J. Demers: Really?
Nina Tarr: Yeah.
D.J. Demers: You were an only child.
Nina Tarr: And they were pretty- yeah, they were-
D.J. Demers: When did they split up?
Nina Tarr: I was five.
D.J. Demers: And then you lived with your mom?
Nina Tarr: Yeah, and then at my dad’s quite a bit. I mean they had like kind of shared custody. But yeah, my parents were just like pretty- they just, they had their own shit going on. They were like really busy people. And like I was at home a lot by myself and uh- which was great. And then when I was a teenager, I was gnarly, I was such a fuckup. I like just- oh man, I would sneak out the house all the time. Like we do crazy shit. And I tried every drug, literally I've tried every drug and most of it was when I was a teenager.
D.J. Demers: Wow.
Nina Tarr: It’s insane. I got arrested five times between the ages of 13 to 17.
D.J. Demers: Whaaat?!
Nina Tarr: I know, for stupid chil- I grew up in like the deep suburbs, so like there was like manicured lawns, like the cops were only- there were so many cops and they were only there to like bust teenagers, like it was that suburban town. And so I got arrested for like dumb ass shit. Just like trespassing and stuff like that, breaking and entering. But it was just like, it was like an open house at an apartment complex, it wasn't like robbing people. Like I didn't- yeah, what was another one, like stealing like makeup or something really dumb. Uh- loitering, I got- I was just such a gnarly kid that I would like if a cop would talk to me, I would be like “Fuck you” [laughing] So bad.
D.J. Demers: Really?
Nina Tarr: I was really intense. I was like really- I was like a punk when I was younger and so it was just like- oh man, yeah I was just like “You know what? This is not even legally sound”. And then they just like get pissed off and they put you in the back of a fucking car, cause you're a shitty teenager talking shit. I mean like “You can't do anything”. So-
D.J. Demers: Wow.
Nina Tarr: I know.
D.J. Demers: You wouldn't consider yourself a punk anymore?
Nina Tarr: Punks never die, they just stand on the back.
D.J. Demers: [laughing] What? They just stand on the back?
Nina Tarr: Well, yeah like the back of punk shows.
D.J. Demers: Oh, is that a common expression?
Nina Tarr: Yeah, a little bit.
D.J. Demers: Oh, punks never die - they just stand on the back.
Nina Tarr: Yeah I consider, I love- I loved punk music. Like I was raised, I started listening to punk when I was like 13 and it was the only thing I listened
to for like a year and a half. I would only listen to like stuff like Dischord and SST, which are record labels that have like Black Flag, Minutemen, Minor Thread, like that. So I was into it.
D.J. Demers: Did you go to a lot of concerts?
Nina Tarr: I did.
D.J. Demers: Yeah?
Nina Tarr: But these are bands- the ones I'm talking about, I was really in 80’s hardcore punk and so that was way before my time, like I- you know, I was- this was like the early 2000’s that I was. But there's still like a great reverberation of the punk scene in Orange County, um- but yeah, I went to- oh my God, I went to really brutal shows. This one show I went to, one of the first punk shows I went to- it was T.S.O.L. and Agent Orange and Manic Hispanic, which are the members of Suicidal Tendencies.
D.J. Demers: Okay.
Nina Tarr: And- [laughing] I don't know if I'm just like, speaking like Mandarin Chinese to you-
D.J. Demers: Well, pretty much.
Nina Tarr: Maybe your listeners know what I'm talking about, I don't know.
D.J. Demers: You guys punks out there? Let us know.
Nina Tarr: [laughing] But I was at this show, I was like 13. And at the show, T.S.O.L., well for some reason they were a huge skinhead following, which is weird cause they're not a skinhead band, they're not Nazis.
D.J. Demers: What’s their name?
Nina Tarr: T.S.O.L.
D.J. Demers: T.S.O.L.
Nina Tarr: They're so good, they're incredible. But, anyway-
D.J. Demers: Skinhead following?
Nina Tarr: Yeah, really weird. Anyway, so there's a lot of like Nazis and skinheads there and there's a lot of them- in Orange County unfortunately there are a lot of, uh- there are a lot of Nazis and skinheads that live in Orange County.
D.J. Demers: Really?
Nina Tarr: Yeah, I think one of the highest concentration of skinheads in California was in Anaheim. It's a very conservative place. It's a red dot and a blue state. It's the opposite of Austin, Texas. It's really conservative, it's like very Republican. They like always vote Republican and a lot of people there are just like religious and conservative. It's really weird.
D.J. Demers: Yeah, you're right, I probably wouldn't love it.
Nina Tarr: No, no, not at all. But yeah, I was at the show and so a lot of skinheads at the show, and then Manic Hispanic are Hispanics, you know, in Suicidal Tendencies. So there's a lot of like Latinos and a lot of skinheads.
D.J. Demers: Uuu-
Nina Tarr: And the show- very tense, I am 13 and there’s this giant dude, fucking giant skinhead dude wearing like a T-shirt that said SS, it's a white thing like Sworn Soldier, like a Nazi T-shirt.
D.J. Demers: Yeah.
Nina Tarr: And all of a sudden- and I was like a few feet away from this - these three like big Latino dudes like basically do like a mutiny, just like fucking- just all attack him, get him to the ground, start beating the shit out of, literally kicking his f- like they're gonna beat him to death, in the pit at the show, while bands were playing and I'm like “Holy shit!”. The irony of this is that this- the security guard had to rescue this dude, this giant skinhead and the security guard was black and literally had to like, rescue pick up this fucking busted up Nazi and take him out. Yeah, it was really tough.
D.J. Demers: Ohhh.
Nina Tarr: That was-
D.J. Demers: And you’re just like “I love this band!”.
Nina Tarr: Yeah, I was like “Aaaaah!” [laughing]
D.J. Demers: Could you feel the tension before that happened?
Nina Tarr: No, I was so naive, I was a teenager. Like I was like “What up?”, like I wasn’t thinking about race relations.
D.J. Demers: Race relations [laughing] “Hmm, I really sense racial divide of America and demographics in this room tonight”
Nina Tarr: Yeah, I was with a lot of friends. It was fun.
D.J. Demers: So you were a hardcore punk star?
Nina Tarr: I was.
D.J. Demers: I was- when I was 13. No, I went to my first concert when I was 16 and it wasn’t punk by any means.
Nina Tarr: So what was it?
D.J. Demers: You wouldn't know him, his name is Sam Roberts. He's a Canadian rock legend. He was like, probably it was just his first album-
Nina Tarr: So like Bob Denver type a guy?
D.J. Demers: Who?
Nina Tarr: Bob Denver?
D.J. Demers: John Denver?
Nina Tarr: Fuck.
D.J. Demers: Yeah, Bob Denver was the guy from Gilligan's Island.
Nina Tarr: Oh my God, you're so right. That’s weird.
D.J. Demers: But no, he's a rocker- Sam Roberts is a- I love that, that was a perfect first show. I'll say that. Uh, you mentioned Roman Polanski earlier.
Nina Tarr: Yes.
D.J. Demers: Everything that happened with him. Are you still able to enjoy his movies?
Nina Tarr: Yeah. I mean it's fucked up, but like-
D.J. Demers: I said everything that happened with him there's no reason to gloss over, the allegations of him raping.
Nina Tarr: A 13 year old girl.
D.J. Demers: Yeah, what is it- obviously a 13 years old it's always rape, whatever, not whatever – that is what it is. But did she claim to be raped or did they say it was consensual?
Nina Tarr: So she- she initially claimed it to be rape but- okay, so there's like this really long podcast that covers exactly this subject, that's very interesting, called “You must remember this” but they talk about this exact case and everything that happened a lot of sides, it's battle an hour and a half long, you can listen, it's great. So the thing is, this girl was going to be cast in like Polanski's new movie, his- the girl's mom was like very much of like a show mom and like pushing her into a lot of opportunities and modeling and everything like that. And Polanski and her mom, you know, they became like frien- not like friends necessarily but like she knew him, like they knew each other and like, you know, he came to the house that night to pick up the daughter. And she was probably, I don’t think she is 13, she was probably 14 or 15. But, you know, talk to the mom like picked her up, like “Yeah, I’m going to take her to Jack Nicholson's house”. And you know it will take out to dinner and then all like return her home. So they like- the mom knew exactly where her daughter was. They, the girl ended up, like she was in a hot tub and she was just like “Oh, I don't really feel well”, he's like “Okay, just like lay down”, she was doing a shoot, that's what it was - he was taking like photos of her two. Then, anyway she- she lays down on the bed and then she says that when she woke up, Polanski was like in bed with her, you know. So that was the first thing that she said, then like after she and her mom like wanted a lawsuit and like claim, you know- then like a few months later, the girl says like “We actually had consensual sex”, they just didn't want to say anything, you know sort of thing. And then it was like this whole, I mean- whatever dude, I don't know what I think about it.
I mean I'm pretty sure Roman Polanski is a fucking creep. And um- it's really shitty what he did. I don't know, it's hard. I try to like- it sounds so shitty and I feel like where right now, like your dollar is your vote and like you know boycotting a product or a person that doesn't advocate general human decency is really important. But a lot of times, I feel I have to separate the artist from the art. Like, sure like you know there's a lot of people that are a fan of Charles Bukowski.
I'm for one, I love his books. I think he's amazing. He was a really bad person. He was a horrible person. He would beat his wife.
D.J. Demers: Yeah.
Nina Tarr: I mean, there's a lot of, I mean yeah- Ernest Hemingway was a piece of shit too. I mean, there's- you look at so many of these artists from the past, these writers, these directors, these visual artists and they were bad people.
D.J. Demers: Yeah.
Nina Tarr: And, unfortunately they hurt people or they like committed like so, you know, where they were dick heads or committed atrocities but like- what they, there- fortunately for us as consumers, they manifested their shittiness into some beautiful things as well, you know. So I like, I like Roman Polanski’s movies a lot, I like Charles Bukowski's books. I like-
D.J. Demers: Hemingway’s books.
Nina Tarr: Yeah. I mean there's so many I'm trying to think of like shitty, like actors that are really bad people- like Nick Nolte. I think he's such a good actor.
D.J. Demers: Is he a bad dude?
Nina Tarr: I mean he's pretty fucked.
D.J. Demers: Yeah. Yeah I mean, you got to make the separation although-
Nina Tarr: Alec Baldwin is definitely a piece of shit.
D.J. Demers: Oh yeah, I was just talking about this with Thomas Dale though. I feel like people who get power and fame, I mean not all of them but I just think it's such a common thing that I don't know why we should be surprised by people, when they become shitty people. Well, some of these people- some of these people might have been shitty even before the fame.
Nina Tarr: Absolutely.
D.J. Demers: But combine that with-
Nina Tarr: It's probably dormant within them, like if you can be that, it always
was in- was in you and it was just dormant.
D.J. Demers: 100%. And you know anybody where you like to look at them and you're like “Dear God, I hope you don't get famous, I can see what it will do to you”.
Nina Tarr: I like know people that are like, “How are you this confident for not doing that much shit?”, just arrogant, like think that they're amazing and I'm like “Fuck, if you already think you're amazing, you're not really like accomplishing that much stuff”. “If you do accomplish anything, you're going to fucking inflate so heavily, like a fucking pool toy”. It's just like hyper ego, I can't do.
D.J. Demers: I don't want this to be victim blaming but what's a mom letting her child go to Jack Nicholson's house for?
Nina Tarr: That's really- here's the thing: the mom definitely had- she was a bad mom. She had a lot of like priorities of getting her daughter in rooms and she like, she did that with like another- uh, I think the holster- I don't remember the whole story on this podcast but she had done that before with her daughter with like other directors or like kind of other talent people, kind of like almost like pimping her out and everything like that. So there was like this level of like, this is like she was definitely in the self-interest of like making her daughter a commodity, you know, to be consumed.
D.J. Demers: Like a mother should, right? [laughing]
Nina Tarr: Yeah, right? I love when I was two years old and my mom dropped down some Pampers and she pushed me out on Hollywood Boulevard and she said “Sweetie, if you can’t make it here, you can’t make it anywhere”.
D.J. Demers: Oh, that’s good. Shirley MacLaine directly, right here on the podcast. Uh, do you want to be famous?
Nina Tarr: Nah, I like I would love to make a significant amount of money doing my preferred art form.
D.J. Demers: Which is?
Nina Tarr: Stand-up, acting, that’d be great. I think, just being like well-respected in the community would be very lovely.
D.J. Demers: And if they paid you in respect but also money, as well.
Nina Tarr: I love, you know, I want to be like that type of rich where you like don't have to worry about anything, where you have a house with a pool and you're like “Yeah, just travel”, you know, everyone wants to be that rich. I don't need to be crazy rich but like be nice to like-
D.J. Demers: Not worry.
Nina Tarr: To not worry and have like nice fucking house-
D.J. Demers: Live a bad ass life.
Nina Tarr: Like a pool and just be able to eat whatever you want-
D.J. Demers: And I want to be able to travel the world for six months and not worry about it.
Nina Tarr: Oh my God, exactly. That’d be so great.
D.J. Demers: I don’t need much, if I did that, you know what I mean? I don’t need that much money to do, I don't need to stay in five star hotels.
Nina Tarr: No, I wouldn’t either. Yeah, that's really what it is, that's a big-
D.J. Demers: I would miss stand-up though. Whenever I think about doing something like that, I'm like six months not on stage? Can't do it.
Nina Tarr: You're going to do it for like, I travel quite a bit and I just go out for like a week to three weeks.
D.J. Demers: Well, I do that too. And I love the idea of a longer one again but I-
Nina Tarr: Why don't you do a tour? If you do a tour-
D.J. Demers: I’m doing a tour in the fall, actually.
Nina Tarr: If you do, are you doing just the U.S. and Canada?
D.J. Demers: Just U.S. but we have a big tour bus and I'm just driving for a month in this gigantic-
Nina Tarr: Oh, that’s amazing.
D.J. Demers: And it's going to be so fun.
Nina Tarr: If you ever like opened for a band doing stand-up, they would go around the world and they would be like a lot of places that like so many people speak English, it's just like you could do stand up-in London. And you know, then you would travel so you'd have like-
D.J. Demers: I would love to just do that without even opening for a band, just to schedule my travel around where I could perform.
Nina Tarr: Oh, you totally could and you could go to like, I mean-
D.J. Demers: There’s Asian tour, I know a guy who does all these Asian-
Nina Tarr: Oh, yeah.
D.J. Demers: They have like ex-pat shows there, that would be amazing.
Nina Tarr: Yeah.
D.J. Demers: You know on a stage in Thailand.
Nina Tarr: You could totally do that, easy.
D.J. Demers: Yeah, I've been thinking about it, but I just moved to L.A. so there's no reason for me jump shift yet.
Nina Tarr: Totally.
D.J. Demers: This is an adventure for me right now. L.A is new to me. The sun is at the perfect point right now, don't you feel like this lighting-
Nina Tarr: I know, it's really nice. It's like the sun has been in my eyes for so long I'm like “Oh wow”.
D.J. Demers: I'm so sorry about that, I don't know how to-
Nina Tarr: No, It's fine, it's fine. I can't believe you couldn't control the sun.
D.J. Demers: This is like the lighting of a- what director would do, is this Brian De Palma moment?
Nina Tarr: Ooooohhh.
D.J. Demers: I’m just trying to act like a cinephile.
Nina Tarr: Oh my God, I love Brian De Palma.
D.J. Demers: But that’s an accurate reference, isn’t it?
Nina Tarr: Yeah, that’s good, I'll give you that. That's great.
D.J. Demers: Come on, I contain multitude. You know that Walt Whitman quote, I also love reading. [laughing]
Nina Tarr: [laughing] Wow.
D.J. Demers: I'm a fully formed human, I too spent a lot of time alone in my room.
Nina Tarr: Oh, shut up. Oh my god, I am so embarrassed.
D.J. Demers: I loved reading, it’s my biggest-
Nina Tarr: I don't do it anymore, it’s so shitty, dude.
D.J. Demers: I don’t read at all and I used to read nonstop.
Nina Tarr: Do you listen to podcast?
D.J. Demers: Yeah, I do.
Nina Tarr: I listen to- I listen to Radiolab all the time.
D.J. Demers: I don't listen. I listen to the same podcast over and over-
Nina Tarr: What are you listening?
D.J. Demers: You can guess.
Nina Tarr: Uh, Dave Matthews Band fans reunite.
D.J. Demers: Well, actually it used to be called that but now it's called the Joe Rogan experience.
Nina Tarr: Oh my God. Everyone listens to that.
D.J. Demers: I enjoy it. I like him.
Nina Tarr: Yeah, he's really smart.
D.J. Demers: He's got opinions. I'm usually onboard with them, even when I'm not. He listens to other people's opinions too. I like people that just are
open minded. Yeah, I like him and he was also my entry in the podcast cause I used to not listen to them at all. So I'm ready to expand into a different one, so I’ll check that Radiolab.
Nina Tarr: I like, like scientific ones or like storytelling ones or like, like Radiolab is amazing. It's so, so smart. And then you must remember this, which I referenced earlier is like an amazing- it's all Hollywood history from like the Hollywood's first century. So like, from just all of the 20th century, so from 1900 to like 2000 basically like all movie history and everything, like actor's story.
I mean they have stories about like, oh like Charlie Chat, they have- okay, the best one though is that it's like a 12 part series called Charles Manson's Hollywood and it's all about- oh my God, it's the best. It's like the most intensive, amazing tale about like all- because there's so many Manson things and this is like- it talks about like not only Charles Manson like, you know, who he was, the person he grew up, what his parents were like. Everyone in the group, as well as like other people like Dennis Wilson, that whole thing, like Kenneth Anger which I didn't know that he was part of it. Sharon Tate and there's a whole Roman Polanski and Sharon Tate episode, like all about Sharon Tate. And like yeah, there's a whole- it goes down all these crazy avenues and looking at every single part of the puzzle that made this happen. It's so cool. But yeah, I really like those two. There's also, I don't know if you're into like true crime, but I like- oh dude, like true crime is so-
D.J. Demers: I haven’t listened to anything but I really want to watch The Jinx. I really want to see that.
Nina Tarr: Oh, D.J! Oh my God, It is phenomenal.
D.J. Demers: I've heard really-
Nina Tarr: I think it’s better than making a murderer.
D.J. Demers: And I really love making a murderer, that’s why I want to see The Jinx. And I think The Keepers, it’s pretty good.
Nina Tarr: That was pretty good.
D.J. Demers: I wanted a bit more of a resolution at the end, but what can you do? It's an age old crime, Catholic Church-
Nina Tarr: The Jinx is- you’re gonna fucking flip it.
D.J. Demers: I can't. Where do I watch The Jinx?
Nina Tarr: HBO, doggy.
D.J. Demers: I don't have HBO.
Nina Tarr: Well, it's time to get some.
D.J. Demers: I should get HBO. I'm missin’ out.
Nina Tarr: Oh man. I feel like I have to go soon, unfortunately.
D.J. Demers: Oh yeah, I'm sorry. I forgot that you had to go somewhere and I didn't tell you this is actually a five hour podcast.
Nina Tarr: Oh shit. Okay, well get my podcast catheter and then strap it in-
D.J. Demers: [laughing] Oh God, word play.
Nina Tarr: Do you provide your own bedpans for the guests?
D.J. Demers: Of course. The best parties are BYOB.
Nina Tarr: “Bring your bedpan dude. We're just going to be doing Molly and shitting ourselves”.
D.J. Demers: [laughing] Okay, well you got to go. This has been really fun, the time flew by an hour.
Nina Tarr: I know and I'm like- I'm trying to reflect on what we talked about and I'm like-
D.J. Demers: “Was that a dream?”.
Nina Tarr: “Was that dumb?”.
D.J. Demers: You started out with genetic stuff right out of the gate, which is always smart, you established your intellectual-
Nina Tarr: I don’t know if I did, I mean like I'm pretty high so I feel like I didn't necessarily do it that well, you know.
D.J. Demers: No, you did. You’re gonna listen to it and be like “Whoa, did I said that?”.
Nina Tarr: I would freak out, I think, if I listen to myself talk for an hour.
D.J. Demers: Yeah, I've listened to my self-talk because I'm doing quality control and seeing what I can improve on my podcast. Very difficult, very, very difficult.
Nina Tarr: Do you like, hate yourself a lot? [laughing]
D.J. Demers: Oh God, I have to break it up into like 15 minutes, I can’t listen to this-
Nina Tarr: You know, I was just going to say like, I think everybody will always be like, I hate that I think- what is wrong with me?
D.J. Demers: But the thing is I hate- I feel like I can get better and that's why I have to listen to it. But I never listen to my comedy sets or anything, I'm very bad at that.
Nina Tarr: Oh I do that, I’ll listen to my comedy sets and I record them all the time. But I think, me talking, especially if I'm not telling jokes- if I'm telling jokes, I'm like “This is already kind of entertaining”.
D.J. Demers: You’re very interesting, and people like podcasts because they like hearing people stories. We have an interesting stories. Before we go, Nina.
Nina Tarr: Yes, yes.
D.J. Demers: One more band that you think I might like?
Nina Tarr: Oh God. Okay. I should have a think about this. I can say Queens Of The Stone Age.
D.J. Demers: Queen of the Stone Age! We'll make it the last thing we say in the podcast. Where can everybody find you online?
Nina Tarr: OK. Well, Nina Tarr, you know pretty easy, you can just Google me. I'm building my comedy site right now and that will just be “ninatarr.com” and then you know, follow me on like instagram, it’s “pizzaparty69” and I'm on Twitter too. Yeah. I mean people just have Google now, they could just literally Google my name.
D.J. Demers: Ok, got it. Nina Tarr, what do you think I like to listen to? Last one of the episode. Thank you so much for stopping by. It's been a great talk. Let's see if you can go like six for six or whatever you at right now, seven maybe like-
Nina Tarr: Maybe like seven for seven. Okay, this is kind of a rogue one but I feel and maybe a cooler one.
D.J. Demers: Okay, give it to me.
Nina Tarr: OK. A little bit cooler but like, I might be so wrong and I'm scared.
D.J. Demers: I've got the rock fingers up.
Nina Tarr: You, you like Metallica, don't you?
D.J. Demers: I don't.
Nina Tarr: Oh my God, you just have like a-erectile dysfunction. [laughing]
D.J. Demers: I don't, I just never really listened to them, I don't not like them, but it was weaker than all you other guesses. It is a shame to end the podcast on such a fair-
Nina Tarr: Oh, shut up! [laughing]
D.J. Demers: [laughing] Thank you very much, Nina.